HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:24 am

Insurance is a product, government has no Constitutional right to mandate you purchase it.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:38 am

I think we would be better off if everyone had to purchase ins. simply because a large part of health care costs now which we all pay thru taxes is what I consider health care welfare. It goes on every day everywhere, people that are uninsured are getting treatment that the tax payer is paying for.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Thu Feb 18, 2010 2:05 pm

samhill wrote:I think we would be better off if everyone had to purchase ins. simply because a large part of health care costs now which we all pay thru taxes is what I consider health care welfare. It goes on every day everywhere, people that are uninsured are getting treatment that the tax payer is paying for.




not all people.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:40 pm

We shall soon see. Lets see, now that a company can spend what ever it wants out of it's own pocket to buy the government it should be interesting. Ah but wait there is a catch, the money that they spend comes from people that buy there insurance and if nobody is buying there insurance then they have to raise rates and it will drive those people out since they won't be bale to pay and then those same people will go in and have there medical done for free. Sure does seem like a catch 22, unless the ploy is to actually have this happen and then the gov. says ok everybody has to have insurance but from "private" companies which will not be cheap by that time. Good scam!!!!! Well thought out too!!!! Nobody there to help just like now!!!!
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:58 pm

Are you are talking about the repeal of the McCain campaign finance bill?

McCain/Feingold was yet another Federal intrusion into the Constitution, it's demise is to be celebrated.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:13 pm

Premiums jump 14 percent on Medicare private plans


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Premiums-jump-14-percent-on-apf-4075415555.html?x=0
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:13 pm

So take away the subsidies and see how fast the price falls.

Don't you get the fact that when you subsidize prices, the costs go up? Always.

If I run a business, and I know the government will pay $xxx, why would I charge less?

Wouldn't I charge $xxx + $100?

As far as the end user knows, the product costs $100 because he doesn't pay the $xxx part. Not directly. But someone does.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:35 pm

My doctor says I have a pulled stomach muscle. I felt something pop when I lifted my floor sander, two Junes ago. I went to see him, great reputation and outstanding bedside manner. He poked me and said it's a pyloris muscle pull. Only rest can help. It's never really gotten better. I seemed to hurt it again in January lifting a microwave. So I made an appointment and saw him. He pokes me and says it's it's a pulled stomach muscle, showed me on the chart. I say didn't you tell me it's a pyloris muscle? He says that's what they used to call it. He tells me to wear a brace when I work.
Then he looks in my ear with one of those scopes. A couple days later my ear starts itching like hell and hasn't stopped since. I'm running alcohol dipped q-tips into it now. With my cynical mind, I think he gave me an exotic disease from the last invalid.
I also had him look at a spot on my face. He mumbled basal cell something; and sent me to a dermatologist. I google basal cell and get a bunch of carcinoma pictures.
I try not to panic, wait two weeks to see the dermatologist. The dermatologist says it's harmless keratosis. He burns it off for a hundred bucks. What a relief.
Now with my cynical mind, I'm thinking, if I had medical insurance, DR. A would have ordered a bunch of tests. At least an ultrasound or something. But I believe he just shuffled me out the door, because it's a business. They're afraid I wont pay the big bucks for the extensive tests. But they run the insured people through there like profit units.
I'm just waiting to see if I end up having to pay a fine to be uninsured. That'll really take the cake.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:28 pm

My wife was in the medical field for over 30 years & she always says the length of a hospital stat depends on the ability to pay.
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:38 pm

More good news for health care. Enjoy.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010 ... -increases
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:14 pm

Just take the insurance companies, take the farms too......

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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:52 pm

Black and Blue, what does the vid have to do with the rising cost of health care and what to do about it?
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Re: HHS secretary asks insurer to justify rate hike

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:43 pm

Insurance costs are rising because we are in a deflationary economic collapse.

The video represents the end goals, maximum government and what lies ahead as we continue to enslave each other.

There is no need to relinquish more of our liberties to the Federal Government for another promise that will not be delivered.

There are solutions, however, rooting for a government take over of 1/6th the economy ain't it.
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