Why I Like Sarah

Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Feb 13, 2010 3:13 pm

samhill wrote:I hear a lot of war talk both here & on other subjects. Who do you propose is going to fight these wars if someone runs around the globe declairing war.


That is a very good valid point. I post so much here because I'm taking time off this winter, maybe too much time off. I like to write, and admit my ego gets in the way of rational discourse.

It's easy for me to be hawkish sitting here in a warm comfortable place. Isn't it something like 100,000,000 people were killed in wars in the last century? When this country was truly threatened with destruction in WWII, it sure seems like everybody got motivated to do whatever it took to win the war. I saw a show about Philly during the war, there were many industrial jobs there that were causing fatigue and injuries, but the populace pressed on and did what they had to do.
The Manhattan Project, unbelievable. I heard that was the equivalent of the entire US auto industry in facilities and effort. There were explosives experts working countless hours down in Los Alamos blowing up pipes to figure out how to have a precisely controlled implosion; so they could compress a 14lb. ball of plutonium and initiate a fission explosion. Oak Ridge, Tennessee; they were consuming huge amounts of hydro-electric power to make the plutonium. Like picking sand grains out of the beach.
Now we have all this nuclear might and nobody even mentions it.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:08 pm

Well I finally decided that I will be voting for a woman in the next Presidential election. I sure hope one runs, and no sorry I don't think S.P. is the type to be Commander in Chief unless you make all states countries, think thats what she might have in mind.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: tvb On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:18 am

If you don't have George Will on your side...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... v=hcmodule

The Republican presidential nominee, an Arizona senator, was a maverick, which was part of his charm. He spoke and acted impulsively, which was part of his problem. Voters thought his entertaining dimensions might be incompatible with presidential responsibilities. For example, he selected a running mate most Americans had never heard of and who had negligible experience pertinent to the presidency. This was 1964.


-snip-


Yet Sarah Palin, who with 17 months remaining in her single term as Alaska's governor quit the only serious office she has ever held, is obsessively discussed as a possible candidate in 2012. Why? She is not going to be president and will not be the Republican nominee unless the party wants to lose at least 44 states.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:52 am

dosnt appear you comprehended the title to this thread
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:55 am

tvb wrote:If you don't have George Will on your side...
She is not going to be president and will not be the Republican nominee unless the party wants to lose at least 44 states.

I wish I had George's faith in the intelligence of the American voter. As for the Republican hierarchy, even those who puke when they think of her, would nominate her if they felt she were electable.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:26 am

Being a good old republican,I've been following her since she came on the scene & admit she has some down to earth qualities--as of late,unfortunatly,it seems that everytime someone says something,she takes it as a personal attack on her family-we were out putting up some fire wood up for a buddy & his boy threw a chunk of wood through his back window--he called him a friggin retard--I doubt if the boy has been scarred for life,no negative meant--just a word---what happened to"sticks & stones will break my bones,but,words will never hurt me--are we really turning into that much of a bunch of sissies--whoops,that's probably inappropriate too--I have an old biker buddy whose son if deaf & dumb--an excellent kid(man) who walked my wife down the aisle when we got married--probably iinappropiate too--but,when the smoke clears,he's still deaf & dumb---people need to lighten up---one of the Redskins chants was or is the tomahawk chop,now,know this,I'm Native American---somebody griped about that--I think he was Jewish and a lawyer w/ ACLU---big stink :( :( I think it's an excellent chant--pretty well covers it all. In my book,the Republicans better do better then Sarah in 2012 :!:
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:27 am

OK- this has been going around the email world. Not trying to be a troublemaker, 2012 is a long way off. This points out good things Sarah did for Alaska...

VERY ENLIGHTENING AND VERY DISTURBING!!
By Dewie Whetsell, Alaskan Fisherman.
As posted in comments on Greta's article referencing the MOVEON ad about Sarah Palin.

The last 45 of my 66 years I've spent in a commercial fishing town in Alaska. I understand Alaska politics but never understood national politics well until this last year. Here's the breaking point: Neither side of the Palin controversy gets it. It's not about persona, style, rhetoric, it's about doing things. Even Palin supporters never mention the things that I'm about to mention here.

1. Democrats forget when Palin was the Darling of the Democrats, because as soon as Palin took the Governor's office away from a fellow Republican and tough SOB, Frank Murkowski, she tore into the Republican's "Corrupt Bastards Club" (CBC) and sent them packing. Many of them are now residing in State housing and wearing orange jump suits The Democrats reacted by skipping around the yard, throwing confetti and singing, "la la la la" (well, you know how they are). Name another governor in this country that has ever done anything similar.

2. Now with the CBC gone, there were fewer Alaskan politicians to protect the huge, giant oil companies here. So she constructed and enacted a new system of splitting the oil profits called "ACES." Exxon (the biggest corporation in the world) protested and Sarah told them, "don't let the door hit you in the stern on your way out." They stayed, and Alaska residents went from being merely wealthy to being filthy rich. Of course, the other huge international oil companies meekly fell in line. Again, give me the name of any other governor in the country that has done anything similar.

3. The other thing she did when she walked into the governor's office is she got the list of State requests for federal funding for projects, known as "pork." She went through the list, took 85% of them and placed them in the "when-hell-freezes-over" stack. She let locals know that if we need something built, we'll pay for it ourselves. Maybe she figured she could use the money she got from selling the previous governor's jet because it was extravagant.
Maybe she could use the money she saved by dismissing the governor's cook (remarking that she could cook for her own family), giving back the State vehicle issued to her, maintaining that she already had a car, and dismissing her State provided security force (never mentioning - I imagine - that she's packing heat herself). I'm still waiting to hear the names of those other governors.


4. Now, even with her much-ridiculed "gosh and golly" mannerism, she also managed to put together a totally new approach to getting a natural gas pipeline built which will be the biggest private construction project in the history of North America. No one else could do it although they tried. If that doesn't impress you, then you're trying too hard to be unimpressed while watching her do things like this while baking up a batch of brownies with her other hand.


5. For 30 years, Exxon held a lease to do exploratory drilling at a place called Point Thompson. They made excuses the entire time why they couldn't start drilling. In truth they were holding it like an investment. No governor for 30 years could make them get started. Then, she told them she was revoking their lease and kicking them out. They protested and threatened court action. She shrugged and reminded them that she knew the way to the court house. Alaska won again.


6. President Obama wants the nation to be on 25% renewable resources for electricity by 2025. Sarah went to the legislature and submitted her plan for Alaska to be at 50% renewables by 2025. We are already at 25%. I can give you more specifics about things done, as opposed to style and persona Everybody wants to be cool, sound cool, look cool. But that's just a cover-up. I'm still waiting to hear from liberals the names of other governors who can match what mine has done in two and a half years. I won't be holding my breath.


By the way, she was content to return to AK after the national election and go to work, but the haters wouldn't let her. Now these adolescent screechers are obviously not scuba divers. And no one ever told them what happens when you continually jab and pester a barracuda. Without warning, it will spin around and tear your face off. Shoulda known better.


You have just read the truth about Sarah Palin that sends the media, along with the democrat party, into a wild uncontrolled frenzy to discredit her. I guess they are only interested in skirt chasers, dishonesty, immoral people, liars, womanizers, murderers, and bitter ex-presidents' wives.


So "You go, Girl." I only wish the men in Washington had your guts, determination, honesty, and morals. I rest my case. Only FOOLS listen to the biased media.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:40 am

By God,here we go,granted,she was a kick butt Governor,back when,I've been trying to find some current--If the woman would stay focused on current disasters--like our current administration,I could easily be swayed back to the positive on Palin--I'm just thinking,you can't get involved in everything & do any of it well (BO's biggest problem I think) criminy,complete one thing(anything) at a time--at this point in time,none of them are dazzeling me w/ their brilliance/they're mostly tryimg to baffle everyone w/ their bull-poop & it's not working what's Sarah's latest--news caster???
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: beemerboy On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:28 pm

If Palin were to run for the republican presidential nomination, how many of you actually believe someone like Romney or Guliani would just roll over let her have the nomination? I sure would love to see that debate.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:52 pm

Dan,

If she had half the balls and guts you ascribe to her, why quit?
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:37 pm

jpete wrote:If she had half the balls and guts you ascribe to her, why quit?


"Contrary to most reports, her decision had been in the works for months, accelerating recently as it became clear that controversies and endless ethics investigations were threatening to overshadow her legislative agenda. "Attacks inside Alaska and largely invisible to the national media had paralyzed her administration," someone close to the governor told me. "She was fully aware she would be branded a 'quitter.' She did not want to disappoint her constituents, but she was no longer able to do the job she had been elected to do. Essentially, the taxpayers were paying for Sarah to go to work every day and defend herself."
This situation developed because Alaska's transparency laws allow anyone to file Freedom of Information Act requests. While normally useful, in the hands of political opponents FOIA requests can become a means to bog down a target in a bureaucratic quagmire, thanks to the need to comb through records and respond by a strict timetable. Similarly, ethics investigations are easily triggered and can drag on for months even if the initial complaint is flimsy. Since Ms. Palin returned to Alaska after the 2008 campaign, some 150 FOIA requests have been filed and her office has been targeted for investigation by everyone from the FBI to the Alaska legislature. Most have centered on Ms. Palin's use of government resources, and to date have turned up little save for a few state trips that she agreed to reimburse the state for because her children had accompanied her. In the process, though, she accumulated $500,000 in legal fees in just the last nine months, and knew the bill would grow ever larger in the future.
"The Alaska ethics elves had painted such a target on Sarah's forehead that she had begun turning down pretty much every invitation she got -- even though they were pouring in every day by the dozens," a confidant of the governor's told me. "It is not throwing in the towel. It is deciding that she was ineffective in fighting for her principles and could do more in another role."
Family considerations also played a role. Ms. Palin gave birth to a baby with Down's Syndrome in 2008, and also has a six-year old. Everyone in the family was weary of endless personal attacks, including mean-spirited suggestions on liberal blogs that all of her children should have been aborted and that she would run on a presidential platform promoting retardation.
By sidestepping her critics, Sarah Palin is now moving to another playing field where she has more control over the rules of the game. Her friends say her critics may call her a "quitter" now, but they should wait and see what new role she decides to fill. She may wind up having the last laugh."
From an article by John Fund in the WSJ
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: gerard On: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:01 pm

Dann, if half what you said about Palin is true, then the handlers for her VP run should all be fired for not getting that information out. Should she decide to pursue another political office, I hope she'll run her own show. Doesn't seem like Mcains people did her justice.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: franco b On: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:27 pm

I believe that in Sarah, what you see is what you will get. I can't think of many politicians I would say that about, especially our current leader.
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:42 pm

I think that Palins statement about being able to do more good for this country out of her governorship,is a reality--I did not get voted in to our Towns, Town Board for another 4 yrs this time around.I & others beleive I P.O'd one to many "Good old Boy"I still attend all board meetings & am a very vocal part of decisions made in the Town--It has been a step up--I don't have to worry about being politically correct,something I was not real good at anyway.If Sarah stands by that proclamation.I don't think we'll see her run in 2012.Time will tell!Yes, I very much think she is a straight shooter--they all seem to get eaten up on the political field.Am I wrong or did she take a news job--I'm sure I heard this
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Re: Why I Like Sarah

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:49 pm

Dann757 wrote:
jpete wrote:If she had half the balls and guts you ascribe to her, why quit?


"Contrary to most reports, her decision had been in the works for months, accelerating recently as it became clear that controversies and endless ethics investigations were threatening to overshadow her legislative agenda. "Attacks inside Alaska and largely invisible to the national media had paralyzed her administration," someone close to the governor told me. "She was fully aware she would be branded a 'quitter.' She did not want to disappoint her constituents, but she was no longer able to do the job she had been elected to do. Essentially, the taxpayers were paying for Sarah to go to work every day and defend herself."
This situation developed because Alaska's transparency laws allow anyone to file Freedom of Information Act requests. While normally useful, in the hands of political opponents FOIA requests can become a means to bog down a target in a bureaucratic quagmire, thanks to the need to comb through records and respond by a strict timetable. Similarly, ethics investigations are easily triggered and can drag on for months even if the initial complaint is flimsy. Since Ms. Palin returned to Alaska after the 2008 campaign, some 150 FOIA requests have been filed and her office has been targeted for investigation by everyone from the FBI to the Alaska legislature. Most have centered on Ms. Palin's use of government resources, and to date have turned up little save for a few state trips that she agreed to reimburse the state for because her children had accompanied her. In the process, though, she accumulated $500,000 in legal fees in just the last nine months, and knew the bill would grow ever larger in the future.
"The Alaska ethics elves had painted such a target on Sarah's forehead that she had begun turning down pretty much every invitation she got -- even though they were pouring in every day by the dozens," a confidant of the governor's told me. "It is not throwing in the towel. It is deciding that she was ineffective in fighting for her principles and could do more in another role."
Family considerations also played a role. Ms. Palin gave birth to a baby with Down's Syndrome in 2008, and also has a six-year old. Everyone in the family was weary of endless personal attacks, including mean-spirited suggestions on liberal blogs that all of her children should have been aborted and that she would run on a presidential platform promoting retardation.
By sidestepping her critics, Sarah Palin is now moving to another playing field where she has more control over the rules of the game. Her friends say her critics may call her a "quitter" now, but they should wait and see what new role she decides to fill. She may wind up having the last laugh."
From an article by John Fund in the WSJ


That's a bunch of crap. It's not like Sarah was spending her day digging through file cabinets and preparing legal briefs.

That's why the state employs armies of lawyers.

There isn't a reason in the world she couldn't have remained governor.

I always lose a little respect for someone who bails out in the middle of a term looking for greener pastures.
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