My Kitchen Project

Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 2:44 pm

One way to get the base cab's level in a room like that is to make a floor frame that the cabinets will sit on. I have found that you can mess with the floor frame easier than individual cabinets, get the top of the frame level and then set the cab's on the frame. You start at the "lowest" point in the room and work up from there making the frame as shallow as possible at the "high" point so your counter doesn't get too high. Get a rough cut of the necessary angle and nail the board that serves as the back of the frame to the wall studs/plate so its top is level. Use a string and level to get a level mark on a board that will serve as the front of the frame. Once you get the bottom of the front of the frame cut to the correct angle(s) so the top of the frame is level, you can hold the cross pieces in place and tack them with the finish nailer. Set the cab's on this frame, cover the frame with toe kick, even on the ends. Hope this description makes sense. I can picture it and do it easier than explaining it.
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: brckwlt On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 4:55 pm

titleist1 wrote:One way to get the base cab's level in a room like that is to make a floor frame that the cabinets will sit on. I have found that you can mess with the floor frame easier than individual cabinets, get the top of the frame level and then set the cab's on the frame. You start at the "lowest" point in the room and work up from there making the frame as shallow as possible at the "high" point so your counter doesn't get too high. Get a rough cut of the necessary angle and nail the board that serves as the back of the frame to the wall studs/plate so its top is level. Use a string and level to get a level mark on a board that will serve as the front of the frame. Once you get the bottom of the front of the frame cut to the correct angle(s) so the top of the frame is level, you can hold the cross pieces in place and tack them with the finish nailer. Set the cab's on this frame, cover the frame with toe kick, even on the ends. Hope this description makes sense. I can picture it and do it easier than explaining it.



your description makes sense, and its one i have done before at a previous cab shop i worked at.

These cabs however already have the 3 x 4 toe kick notched out of them. So if i were to construct what you described then i would end up with to much space from floor to bottom of cab.

any how i got the cabs level with a lot of shims. they are now screwed together and to the wall. I also go the counter top in place.
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:11 pm

excellent--looking fwd. to seeing pics
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 5:34 pm

There ya go!
I made big long shims out of 2x4 stock to level the cabinets here. I don't own the place; but I kind of regret not jacking up the floor from underneath before I got started. There is a noticable belly in the floor here, apparent by the shim under the cabinets. The used cabinets had tile as kick-toe previously, hence the glue marks.
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: brckwlt On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:09 pm

some progress ... lots to do yet
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: Dann757 On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:49 pm

That is looking really nice! Good for you!
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:19 pm

Looks good, you're progressing better than I did. A couple years ago I started in November and finished at the end of March. Of course all the delays were due to decorating decisions! :roll:
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: brckwlt On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:26 pm

titleist1 wrote:Looks good, you're progressing better than I did. A couple years ago I started in November and finished at the end of March. Of course all the delays were due to decorating decisions! :roll:



If i took that long my wife would kill me. Plus i hate having the house a total wreck right now.
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: jim d On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:57 pm

good job brckwit and yes patience is definetly overated
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: brckwlt On: Fri Mar 05, 2010 6:16 am

i agree, as i am the least patient person in the world
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Mar 05, 2010 8:49 am

patient or not,it looks outstanding so far :)Hey Dann,yours came out real nice :)
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Mar 05, 2010 10:53 am

brckwlt wrote:
titleist1 wrote:Looks good, you're progressing better than I did. A couple years ago I started in November and finished at the end of March. Of course all the delays were due to decorating decisions! :roll:



If i took that long my wife would kill me. Plus i hate having the house a total wreck right now.


It sounds worse than it was since the kitchen was always useable by the end of the day and the delays really were because of her trying to decide which counter, what backsplash tile and pattern and what colors to paint the walls/ceiling.

I would work 2 or 3 days then wait 5 or 6 weeks for a decorating decision. We had a 3/4" plywood counter for about 2 months until she decided on the color countertop and it got installed. Then it took from Jan into Feb to decide on wall colors to "compliment the counter", I know this because I painted while the Superbowl was on. Then the rest of Feb to decide on tile and the pattern which took us to March. I admit I was slow installing the backsplash tile but that was my first tile project and I was learning.

By the way, I am still waiting for the flooring decision!

One thing I always mention to people doing a kitchen project is to consider putting lighting on underside of the uppers, but it doesn't look like you'll have uppers to do that to.
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:25 pm

the cupboards look excellent w/ the walls--can't see the contrast of counters to floor in last set of pix
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Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:13 pm

It is looking good! Ask the decorating committee if you'll be getting a larger light fixture over the sink!? Just trying to save you a surprise or two along the way.... :D :D

By the way, the flooring doesn't look like it was too bad to level out, I don't see 4 or 5 shims stacked to get it level!
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: My Kitchen Project

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Mar 05, 2010 5:25 pm

I'm looking as good as I can on pix #1 & I'd bet that when you clean up the floor & poly it--it will darken up quite a bit---try a little swath in front of the sink cabinet & take a look see :)
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