Pocono 110 stove temp?

Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: Paulie On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:00 am

Just curious if anybody is running a pipe thermo on their 110 Pocono? Thinking of shifting some stoves around this summer,
and am considering a 110 Pocono to be used where there is now a 90 Pioneer. How much more heat is there to be had?
I am getting 140-150 flue temps before the baro, 550-570* top right front of stove. These temps are at full grate burn.
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Re: Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 11:12 am

I wouldn't think it would be much different. Once they start cranking, they usually run about the same temp. ranges.
That is about the same as what I am getting on my Hyfire.

Are you flue temps measured on the outside of the pipe? Seem a bit low, but if using the magnetic type thermometers, they are not that accurate on a round surface.

I use a probe thermometer in the pipe after the baro and it never gets above 250 degrees (inside the pipe).
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Re: Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: gwjwbw On: Thu Mar 04, 2010 7:40 pm

i have a pocono 110 btu and it dosent run full burn too much, just enought to maintain temp truout the day
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Re: Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: Paulie On: Fri Mar 05, 2010 1:58 am

WNY wrote:I wouldn't think it would be much different. Once they start cranking, they usually run about the same temp. ranges.
That is about the same as what I am getting on my Hyfire.

Are you flue temps measured on the outside of the pipe? Seem a bit low, but if using the magnetic type thermometers, they are not that accurate on a round surface.

I use a probe thermometer in the pipe after the baro and it never gets above 250 degrees (inside the pipe).



Yes, I am using the exterior magnetic thermometer. I realize the lack of accuracy, but it should be consistent.
I would think the larger stove/stoker would burn hotter, at least at the stove body. If they do not, how do they provide more
heat? The stove body is not THAT much bigger. I have not done the surface area calculations between the two, but it is not
huge. So where does the extra heat come from?
Also, how much does the color of the stove effect it ability to radiate the heat? Obviously, black is the most efficient but how much does color effect it? Just curious.
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Re: Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: Matthaus On: Sat Mar 06, 2010 4:10 pm

Paulie wrote: snip...So where does the extra heat come from? Also, how much does the color of the stove effect it ability to radiate the heat? Obviously, black is the most efficient but how much does color effect it? Just curious.


The surface area is about 1/3 more considering the sides only, also it is pushing more air (twice the amount, two fans Vs one). This will wash more heat off the stove and allow a similar temp, although the Pocono does run as high as 650*F on the same location as you measured on your Pioneer. I have not noticed an appreciable difference in heat output for the colors Vs the black stoves. Temps are identical and the apparent heat seems to be the same.

My question would be why do you need more heat? Please describe your setup and areas that seem to need more heat in relation to the stove's location. Unless you are heating more than 2,500 sq ft or you have very poor insulation in the house, basement or both I would say better air circulation would take care of your issues. Although far be it from me to convince you that you shouldn't buy another one of our products! ;) :)
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Re: Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: Paulie On: Mon Mar 08, 2010 2:58 am

I have it all. 3500 sf, so- so circulation, and a granite basement, so jack for insulation. As well as the Pioneer does, it is
maxed out all the time. 1/3 more surface area, twice the heat wash, and an extra 100* would explain where the extra heat
comes from. I prefer colors over black, why walk when you can fly?
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Re: Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Mar 08, 2010 8:22 am

My Hyfire has only maxed out a couple times at 98% Feed Rate, but that when it was -10 outside, but still maintained 68 (Setpoint) in the living area. Stove temp around 550-575 degrees. The 68 is the perfect temp it can maintain without running full all the time. Normal is around 40-60%FR. Depending on the outside temps.
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Re: Pocono 110 stove temp?

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu Oct 28, 2010 10:44 am

I do play around with my MAX/MIN a but more than everyone else (even though LL says not to). I find the stove more responsive in my application. I leave the room temp at about 71F. So back to the thread in hand, my MAX is about early thirties as any more than that I spill a little fuel. So during the last little cold spell a MAX of 28 running at a Feed rate of darned near 100% my Vermont stick on thermometer located between the fire door and the top air gap was recording about 575F. My trusty hand held IR thermometer estimated that was about 30F too hot a reading so say 540F true. Remember my dist. fans are flat out all the time. So flat out at a MAX of say about 35 I might squeak 600F on a good day. Worried that I am nearly flat out on not too cold a day? Well remember I have Poco sisters called Dolores and Delillah. Dolores is still asleep. Is anybody worried about the fusel oil in that cheap vodka I'm forced to drink these days and is it affecting my brain. Honest answers grudgingly accepted. ;)
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