Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: spc On: Tue Mar 09, 2010 2:17 pm

"The Obama administration will accept no more public input for a federal strategy that could prohibit U.S. citizens from fishing the nation's oceans, coastal areas, Great Lakes, and even inland waters."

http://sports.espn.go.com/outdoors/salt ... id=4975762

This can not be true, can it?
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:16 pm

Amazing,some of the stuff that we don't hear about--no matter,I'm going to keep all my guns,my trip to Barnaget Lighthouse on Long Beach Island for flounder shall continue---What the he!! is wrong w/ that man :(
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Mar 09, 2010 8:32 pm

Not so ironically called the L.O.S.T. Treaty.

Globalism under the UN to for a "New World Order" is the endgame. You can keep saying I wear a tin foil hat, of you can wake the hell up.

Last year they made it a law that you had to get a license for surfcasting. It violates the RI state Constitution but no one seems to care.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nat ... of_the_Sea

Out to 12 nautical miles from the baseline, the coastal state is free to set laws, regulate use, and use any resource. Vessels were given the right of innocent passage through any territorial waters, with strategic straits allowing the passage of military craft as transit passage, in that naval vessels are allowed to maintain postures that would be illegal in territorial waters. "Innocent passage" is defined by the convention as passing through waters in an expeditious and continuous manner, which is not “prejudicial to the peace, good order or the security” of the coastal state.[b] Fishing, polluting, weapons practice, and spying are not “innocent",


My Congressional delegation already voted for it. They can make any laws they want and there's not much you can do about it.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Mar 09, 2010 9:01 pm

All that this means is that the time for public input on this measure is over, the Gov. most always accepts public input on these type of programs for a set period of time along with commercial & any others that may be involved. I would guess that this has been published in fishing & sporting mags. for some time & now what ever agencies are involved will go through all the input, it may be a long time before any decision is made if ever. If I remember right there was another thread about something like this not long ago, I think Shimano was involved in that one.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:15 pm

Sam, the fact that it exists is the issue. This is not about conservation, the people driving this type of legislation are those that simply don't want people fishing because they don't like it. The type of people if you handed them a fishing pole they wouldn't know which end you're supposed to hold. These issues have always been regulated by the states and that is the way it should remain for more reasons than one. Just for example if you look at PA fishing regulations they have blanket regulations for the state however there are many places they are superseded by specific regulations set for certain areas. They have different seasons and catch limits for some areas that may require special attention. Who do you think is better qualified to make those decisions? The Pennsylvania Fish Commission or some guy in D.C. who will undoubtedly be some environmentalist whacko with no clue about the traditions and sport of fishing.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:48 am

I`m just saying that from what I`ve been able to find out so far there is nothing on the table to end fishing rights, IMO there is somebody that either stands to make money or political gain out of this issue. I`ll be able to stop today & talk to a Park Ranger or the Pa. fish comm. & see if they know anything. I don`t believe that with the $ that states like Pa. make off the rec. fishing Industry they wouldn`t be saying something more about this. Its just like the fact that we can no longer buy or own guns & ammo (remember that) there was & still is a lot of money being made off that one. And once again its just my opinion, there are a lot of lake groups & sportsman clubs around me that follow up on everything & will call a meeting in a heartbeat. When they tried to stop people from feeding bread to the carp there were more people there than what is in the local population.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 9:17 am

Part of their reasoning is knowing how many fish recreational fishermen take. Commercial fishermen are restricted in how much they can take and now they are trying to do the same thing to everyone else.

It's right in the RI constitution that everyone has full access to the shore for the purposes of "fishing and the gathering of seaweed".

I'm not sure why I'd want seaweed, but I have a right to it. :)

I think it's good fertilizer actually.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:54 pm

samhill wrote:Its just like the fact that we can no longer buy or own guns & ammo (remember that) there was & still is a lot of money being made off that one.


I'd agree, many people overblow that issue but they are no more nuts than the growing opposition that want that to happen. Yell, scream and holler or you may see the day. We already have bans on certain types of ammunition and guns. It's a slow erosion of your rights that is the problem. First we ban offshore fishing, then we ban onshore fishing... 30 years down the road you can't fish for trout.

jpete wrote:Part of their reasoning is knowing how many fish recreational fishermen take. Commercial fishermen are restricted in how much they can take and now they are trying to do the same thing to everyone else.


PA already has daily catch limits, seasons and sizes on most fish but that's practical because you obviously want to keep a healthy fish population. I've seen pictures of guys from the turn of the century with 20 or 30 once in lifetime muskellunge on a stringer. Those days will never return but at least I still have a chance to get one.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:29 pm

MA is a perfect example of what would happen to the rest of the country if we all just sit back & let our rights go away one by one.

I tried to buy PELLETS yesterday -- yup, air rifle pellets -- & Cabela's COULD NOT SHIP THEM TO MA!!!!!!!!!!! Can you believe this horse *censored*???? Even if your 100% legal to own a firearm, you cannot have ammo shipped to MA. Also, you can't have your favorite beer, wine or liquor shipped to MA. This is what happens when the majority of the population is wealthy liberals who are fine with the status quo. Now in order to exercise your 2nd amendment right, you have to do cartwheels through hoops .... and then wait x amount of days (months actually) to get one. Ammo is under lock & key at every store ...& you cannot display a sidearm in public .... like it all has to be hidden, like it doesn't exist, so as not to scare these yuppie liberal wussies. You can legally own a black powder rifle without an FID, but you need the FID card to buy powder!! But .. there is no law against someone buying it for you! Makes absolutely NO SENSE!! This will be America soon if people don't fight for their rights, no matter how trivial they may seem.

Next year we will have to PAY for a license to fish in the ocean! Pretty soon it will be illegal to own a off-road vehicle in this state, the way things are going. Next year, all paints will be water based -- all others illegal!! I might go to jail for uttering the word RETARD!! Gotta love MA. Where the laws are written by retards! :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 2:38 pm

I talked to some people this morning, Friends of Pymatuning Lake & a park ranger that know nothing about it, granted it is a inland fresh water lake but they keep up on everything. They did say a few years ago there were several groups that were trying to keep people off what they considered their beaches but they thought that it was a dead issue the only thing they could think of is for a catch estimate for salt water fish to keep track of population & migration. I know years ago I was pier fishing near Norfolk when the Bluefish were running & I don`t recall any mention of limits, maybe they want to curtail some of that, I saw people that had to have at least 50.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:40 pm

That's why the fishing licenses are free this year ..... but mark my words: Once they run the numbers on how much revenue can be generated, you can bet your ass they will be charging admission for the '11 season. That's all this whole thing is about: MONEY. Everything else is secondary to the gov't.
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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 7:09 pm

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Re: Prohibit Recreational Fishing???

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Mar 10, 2010 8:23 pm

Ah, Environmental Justice......

keep a hairy eyeball on the usurpers of liberty : Enviromental Politcs and your fishing rights.
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