Health Care vote

Re: Health Care vote

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:29 pm

samhill wrote:Why I want H.C., heres my portion of health ins. for my wife, we got married in 04, in a large group plan.
01-31-05 $ 35.66 no problem
01-31-06 125.83 still not bad
01-31-07 225.93
01-31-08 290.62
01-31-09 364.19
01-31-10 470.55
do you still wonder why I am willing to try a new H.C. plan, I can`t afford what we have now & in July of this year my pension drops by $400.00/mo. This is not a Cadilac plan, I have to pay the first $1,000 before it even starts to kick in.


When I look at my son and contemplate his future, yours and other anecdotal complaints aren't in the picture. Instead, I'm ponder how I might suffer now so that he may grow to adulthood free from bondage and the limits you seek to impose on his generation.
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Re: Health Care vote

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:38 pm

tvb wrote:
I spent 16 years in the military defending your right to say it.


That's a long time. Do you use Tri-Care?


No, Tri-Care is for active duty folks or retirees older then 65. We don't qualify for either. I left after 16 years when my son was born and my Reserve Commitment was up. My husband was also a Reservist and we couldn't risk both of us being called up to support the War on Terror. We had 3 kids under 8. He retired 2 years ago with 26 years and was indeed called up on Sept 12 and served on Active Duty for 18 months. He was called up again in "04 for another 18 months. We were both Logistics and Transportation people so there was a high demand immediately after 9/11. At one point we thought I'd be called up anyway but it didn't happen. DK is a Navel Engineer working for the DEPT of the NAVY so we have the government health care. We are paying for our daughter's health care because she aged out of our policy. As I said, changes have to be made in the current system but not at the expense of personal liberties and not by having some one's idea of a good plan rammed down our throat. Lisa
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Re: Health Care vote

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:40 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:When I look at my son and contemplate his future, yours and other anecdotal complaints aren't in the picture. Instead, I'm ponder how I might suffer now so that he may grow to adulthood free from bondage and the limits you seek to impose on his generation.


Well put, not a day goes by that those thoughts don't cross my mind. Lisa
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Re: Health Care vote

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:47 pm

I just don`t know you can believe that you are free from bondage with the present system? Plus I`m not seeking to impose anything on anyone, I have two kids & only one has health Ins. & is having a hard time with her premiums. If as someone said the Ins. Co.s are in cahoots with the Dems., why is it that they are spending millions fighting this or any other plan?
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Re: Health Care vote

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:38 pm

Samhill I hate to break it to ya but the healthcare I have (USED to have, I should say) is what the government is trying to ram down all our throats. I live in MA -- where they figured all of us are dumb enough to be pushed around without any recourse (they keep getting elected), so the rest of the country must be equally dumb. As they have found out, the rest of the country is NOT MA.

If I had premiums as cheap as yours samhill, I'd still have insurance!! That is nothing short of a total bargain. I was paying 60% MORE than you, for 2 healthy, working adults in our late 30's. If your complaining about that tiny bill, then you will regret telling your congressman to vote for this mess. Once this passes, everyone will have bills like mine. I chose to keep my Chevy & forgo the insurance. For the price of my healthcare, I could be driving a brand spankin new top-of-the-line Cadillac, & trade it in every YEAR. :shock:

MA is screwing the middle class & giving handouts to the lazy, illegal & rich. You can't seriously wish this on the rest of the country ......... could you? :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Re: Health Care vote

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Mar 17, 2010 7:52 am

We have BC/BS excellus through our school district where Momma works in the cafeteria--we pay $223.00 a month with $50.00 each taken out of pocket up front for what I'm not sure,but then it is $400.00 out of pocket co-pay wise before they pick up the whole thing--not bad huh??unless you figur what I make SSA wise from farming most of my life & Momma's not much,yearly salary from the school--we keep up on our monthly bills --house is pd for,my old truck is pd for Momma has a newish car($200.00) a month forever--we go out to eat once a month--Country Kitchen special($20.00) for the both of us--point being--one old mans thoughts--why is one guy or gal spending $200.00 a mo. & another is paying $400.00 a month--YES,ours was the same when the kids were here(less even)but it goes up outlandlishly each year--we need some uniformity--when I came back from the Nam,I lived & worked in Canada for a few yrs. logging--Socialized Medicine covered everything--doctors got pd what they got pd & enjoyed being Doctors--most all were GP's,did house calls when needed--what the hell is wrong with OUR country--I'm not saying Doc's should work for free,but,they are right up there w/ lawyers,greedy A_holes--what I'm following w/ this health care bill??? If you can't dazzle em w/ your brilliance--baffle em w/ your bullpoop---oh well,time for barn chores--God has given us an outstanding day--get out & enjoy it :) one more question--why did social security nix our cost of living yearly increase,yet politicians got theres :x
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Re: Health Care vote

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:04 am

That premium is a part payment for my wife only, the other part & mine are still paid for by U.S.S. & Carnegie Pension Fund for which I am totally grateful, I just put that up as an example, its still about half of my pension. For myself even though my Ins. gets billed simply because I have it I use the good old socialized V.A. medical care, in my area its easy to get to & I find it excellent. It occurs to me from what I read that most on here are lucky enough to have H.C. Ins. but allow me to say that in this economy that could change at any time. In the 80s I had a good job with H.C. & was laid off toward the end of a month, by the end of that month I no longer had a chance of being called back & had a wife, two children & myself with no H.C., I don`t know if it can still happen that fast or not but it can happen.
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