Are They UGLY ?

Hell ya, they’re ugly – but they have great personalities and boy, can they keep you warm on a cold winter’s night. They are quiet, yet attentive, warming both your body and soul; the perfect champion. That’s all I ask. Besides, when I look at the old parlor stoves I can’t help but think of the work involved to keep them beautiful what with all the brass and shiny metal; definitely high maintenance in that regard. No, I’ll take my ugly Mark II and be grateful for the simplicity – in looks and deeds - with which it heats my house.

PS. I just finished my spring maintenance and wouldn't you know it's wet and chilly out. Bummer! Have a great day!

nortcan,now this is just as Fred sees it,not to be confused with as Bill sees it but,there is contraversy involved w/ coal use--the al gores of the world,right,no capitals--I don't think the media wants to get involved for the most part--as even with natural gas--they are stateing only approx. 200 yrs of availability--as for coal at 250 yrs--can't tell you factually,I'm far from an expert--you should probably ask stockingfull or tvb on that one--I do know that there is,even if it's 250 yrs,a reprieve on having to buy foriegn fuel for a while & I'm all for that--as for pellets,many people up here bought stoves & were not able to get enough pellets to finish out the entire 1st winter???many of them are now doing coal---I hate to say but I think China owns a good chunk of us already,collateral wise---thank God,your not a lawyer,I commend you----if you can't dazzle em w/ your brilliance--baffle em w/ your bull sh_t

nortcan wrote:

freetown fred wrote:nortcan,you've lost me.Just by looking on this site,you can tell that there are many States represented as far as anthracite use--most members list thier Home State or Province--some don't--can't tell you why--PARANOIA .Anyone who I talk to about heating alternatives,I'm right there discussing coal & mentioning this web site---Now,about your mentioning Promoters--well unfortunatly in my book,most GOOD promoters are nothing more then over glorified bull shi__ers--- Anyone interested in alternative heating can find a wealth of info pertaining to coal or other sources---nortcan--please don't tell me that you are also a lawyer

Hi freetown fred, when I said promoter, I include newspapers, home magazines, anthracite compagny, custommers...Usually, savings spread faster than the light...
Is it possible that the reserves of anthracite are not so important than what I heard about it : about 250 years to come? Is that number of years correct for the reserves of it? Peoples ran all over the world when pellet stoves appeared, I don't say I like them but they grew quite fast for what they have to offer... Like a lot of things, if America don't moves, chinaaa will... Today they bought Volvo from Ford and tomorrow they will win the world without an arm and they will tell us what to do. When you own every thing, you are the boss! Hope it will never happens!
I 'm not a lawyer, I'm too honest for that. (joke ). Do you think there is a H.F.C.S. nice enough for them?
Salutations

Hi, When I saw how well my Vig 2 performed after the modifs. I made on it, I decided to make a video to show how it was easy to light an anthracite fire and keep it burning. It's not perfect but gives an idea.
I also decided to always say anthracite instead of coal. When I was talking to someone of coal burning before, the discussion was very very short. Now, when I say anthracite, peoples ask what is that? I answer that it is a new product from the ground discovered in 18?? and the discussion may last a long time...I keep in my pocket a small piece of anthracite and show it like if it was a precious diamond. They love to take it in their hands...So as you told me a lot of time, beauty is not the same for everybody! The same thing can look ugly for some and beatiful for others.
Salutations.

2 Videos: A Different Vigilant II coal stove
Part 1 of 2:


Part 2 of 2:

Nice stove area The cat sure knows where to go

freetown fred wrote:Nice stove area The cat sure knows where to go

Hi freetown fred, thanks for the comment , from me and the cats.
You know when I sent my first post A different Vigilant 11 c.s.,I thaught it would interest more peoples than it does. I thaught someone or some entreprise would be interested in the way these modif. could change so radically the overall performances of a stove. Some on the forum related that the shape of a coal stove should be ....for the best performances. I cant tell you that, now I know this: it is not the shape of the fire box which makes the difference, it could be round, square or rectangular the secret is not there. What surprised me is that the interest was not the performances but thing like the grill at the front top . Few asked for more details about
At the opposite, when I asked : are they UGLY, I thought that I will receive a couple of yes or no answers but again I was wrong. Lot of readers...
Maybe I should stop to think and consider that anthracite market is and should stay a low profile market???
Salutations

nortcan,alls I can say on that is that anthracite & coal burning gets where it needs to get-Quebec qua--spellings probably wrong there There are alot of people that do modifs on thier stoves & they seem to work real good for them as does yours for you

nortcan I was very interested in the modifications you made to your stove so I could produce them on my VC. I had asked and got no answers, so I thought you wanted to keep them secret.
If you would like to share your modifications in greater detail I'm sure they would benefit many people.

Pete69 wrote:nortcan I was very interested in the modifications you made to your stove so I could produce them on my VC. I had asked and got no answers, so I thought you wanted to keep them secret.
If you would like to share your modifications in greater detail I'm sure they would benefit many people.

Hi, I was waiting some more time to be sure of the results. I also wanted to see how long the stove could keep on burning on warmer days. Actually it's burning (I need warmer air for my office in the basement): at 4.30 pm, outside T= 70F, basement T=73F, air coming from first floor blower =89F, stove T= 240F (internal damper closed), I a'm surprised the stove keeps on burning at that warm outside temp. At 8 Am= 6 pounds of anthracite, I will put about 7or 8 pounds at 8 Pm after shaking and slicing as you saw on the video and nothing else except air setting and close the internal damper, during the 12 Hrs of day time, my wife touches noting at the stove. I'm doing about the same thing since a lot of days. You can trust me, it's A different vigilant 2. I want to take the stove apart and take mesurements and photos of everything that could help you or someone else...
Salutations

freetown fred wrote:nortcan,alls I can say on that is that anthracite & coal burning gets where it needs to get-Quebec qua--spellings probably wrong there There are alot of people that do modifs on thier stoves & they seem to work real good for them as does yours for you

Salutations freetown fred, good try for your french...

Hi , Since yesterday I hesitated a long time before to talk of a personal story. If I do, it's because I have great consideration for all of you.
When I decided to register I was scared about my English translation and all the burning knowledge you had. I must tell to all of you that I appreciated the way you reacted because I know that a lot of my writing may be not easy to understand (sometimes my dictionnary got's as warm as my stove...).
No one bother me with that, thanks.
The other thing I wanted to share with you is that: yesterday, I received a phone call saying my yougest sister was dead from a heart problem. She was only 57.
Now I should leave you because water is not good in a key pad.
Prenez bien soin de ceux que vous aimez

Very sorry to hear of your loss.

nortcan,Momma's & my hearts go out to you,hang tough my young friend and yes,you are part of this family

I am really sorry to hear about your loss. I know its hard at times like this but you have to hang in there.

I am so very sorry for your loss Nortcan.

Hi,

I'm so sorry to hear about your sister. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

PS. I never noticed a difference with your writing. Seems fine to me, you are just one of the gang.