Truth or Change ?

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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:44 am

Forgive me, I wasn`t trying to manipulate you, your earlier words seemed to sound like you meant to burn them all like the manure that they are. I didn`t realize that you were only talking about just the evil ones. I think we should have finished the job when we had the chance in Afgan & never had gone into Iran.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:53 am

I agree also. We had the big bin-Bozo in the cross hairs several times...

click -bang. BUT.... $$$$$$ and power struggles within the "powers that be" are as much a "terror" as those virgin-seeking excuses's for Men are.

Last thing I need to see or wish for is my president to be one of them.

I have been in Buddist temples and removed my shoes and respected them several times..

I don't think after the events of the past decade and more I would or could ever respect the muslim beliefs.

You ever see buddist go after virgins with such vigor????? 8-)
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:02 am

Sam,be careful....I've been reading that new book from Neville Chamberlain titled "Appeasement-How I Sold Out The Free World"....It has amazing content in it on how misguided politicians and citizens place trust in those who have publically stated their aims against them. Dealing with terrorists has come down to needing them to be afraid. Ethnic Cleansing was covered in Chapter 4. Thank God that puke Hitler didn't succeed. He came to darned close. Milosevic and Karadovic read the same chapter,unfortunately. Same with the various slaughters in Africa. The folks who had to chose between roasting to death or jumping from the heights before the Towers fell would have gladly argued Constitutional Viewpoints,but they just didn't have the time. We either survive or die by what we are and what we do on the World's stage. Our Sovereignty isn't negotiable. When it's time to remove these perps from killing our innocents,we need to be right and correct. Hell of a mess.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:32 am

As it was said they have been fighting probably darn near since time began, we should have done our thing & left. Saddam was an evil man but not our problem, there are evil men all over the planet, should have taken Saddam out in the first Gulf War instead of stopping, everything else since then may have been a mute point. History will never know.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:57 pm

samhill,

The crusades and the Spanish inquisition were both supported and started by the catholic church not by "Christians". The pope even apologized for it a few years ago. It can not be supported or condoned by scripture. They (catholics) out right murdered people that were not professing catholics. Sorry if this offends anybody but it is history and the pope admitted to it.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:29 pm

I`m no scholar, certainly not with theology but what I have found is that there are a lot more similarities between most popular religions than differences IMO. Read quite a few books (mostly totally dry) & I`ve come to personally believe this, might not be much to it but I kind of left it at that in my own thoughts.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:18 pm

I agree most religions are violent and murder those who don't believe as they do. True Christianity is a faith not a religion-Religion= Man making himself righteous before God- Whereas I can't and won't try to do that. No where in the new testament does it speak of murder to spread the gospel of Christ. It does just the opposite>

Matthew 5:43-49 (King James Version)

43Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy.

44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

45That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

46For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

47And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

48Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

This is why there are so many different bibles and sects of "christians" if scripture disagrees with you why not rewrite it to conform to what you "FEEL" it should say.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:33 pm

I'm all for peace, and I don't want to seem uncharitible by posting the following. I found it on a long Yahoo series of comments about the recent bombings in Russia, including a lot of comments by foreigners all over the world. Samhill, I understand your desire to be fair; as you hold that desire, our USA is being undermined. It seems to me that you live in a rural area with plenty of room to breath and probably mostly white population, with low population density. Maybe that's why you can take a moral high ground. Every day I see NJ turning into a foreign country, I will have to eventually learn Spanish if I want to stay in my own country. I don't have the answers. I've pretty much lost my best friend after he got on a liberal rant over a week ago. There is only one person that came between me and him, Obama.
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Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called ‘religious rights.’

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to ‘the reasonable’ Muslim demands for their ‘religious rights,’ they also get the other components under the table. Here’s how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States — Muslim 1.0%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1%-2%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad &Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace — there’s supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that’s not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: BillMarti On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:41 pm

You are correct they'll destroy us from the inside out. And this the liberals refuse to see!
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:48 pm

1% is scary enough.......


its a festering boil.... :(
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 5:57 am

And I'm afraid will be very ugly when it bursts :(
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:40 am

Don`t get me wrong with some of my posts, I now live in a rural area but came from whats left of a small city south of Pittsburgh, we (for some reason ) didn`t have much of a hispanic problem there mostly black. That being said is where I don`t know what happened to the country, I got out of H.S. in 65 & still go to class picnics & the such(active class) many of my friends & classmates are black but it seems a different culture of black, we never did have problems with race then.
Its my understanding that states have the most control over their welfare systems, so why do they keep making it better for the slugs of society? How are all the Muslins & others getting here that can offer nothing but cab driving & 7-11s we have plenty of people that can hand out slurppies & drive, as a bonus you can sometimes even understand what they are saying. Get this slugs off welfare to do those jobs if nothing else. Immagration was great for a country that needed working people,we have more than enough slugs, send them back, close the borders & only take in the ones that can offer something to the betterment of the country. IMO the welfare system is the biggest financial drain on our system but unless they take away their right to vote after a # of years of doing nothing no politician will ever address the problem. Most if not all the politicians we have now only care about re-election & filling their pockets. Thats both sides just follow the lobbist money.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:51 am

Welfare is liberalism at work. Immigrants we don't need flock to MA due to it's support of every deadbeat on the planet. This will never change with all the career democrats running the show here ... :sick:
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:44 am

One thing that I have learned in live Smitty is to never say never.
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Re: Truth or Change ?

PostBy: cabinover On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:55 pm

The ones that leave MA head straight to Vermont. More derilicts running around here everyday waiting on the first and fifteenth.
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