Health care law could cost 100,000 + jobs.

Health care law could cost 100,000 + jobs.

PostBy: plumb-r On: Sun Mar 28, 2010 11:53 am

Big corporations such as AT&T,Boeing,3M Co.,Deere&Co. ect. All saying that this healthcare law is going to cost them hundreds of thousands if not millions in tax write offs. This could translate in to lost jobs and or lose of company health benefits. At a time when the unemployment rate is hoovering around 10 the white house decides to make it worse. I for one don't understand. Can someone show me the silver lining cause I just don't. :mad:
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PostBy: brckwlt On: Sun Mar 28, 2010 1:32 pm

plumb-r wrote:Big corporations such as AT&T,Boeing,3M Co.,Deere&Co. ect. All saying that this healthcare law is going to cost them hundreds of thousands if not millions in tax write offs. This could translate in to lost jobs and or lose of company health benefits. At a time when the unemployment rate is hoovering around 10 the white house decides to make it worse. I for one don't understand. Can someone show me the silver lining cause I just don't. :mad:


IMO this govt wants a higher unemployment rate. They want more americans out of jobs. This will make more people dependent on the govt. They want you to have to turn to the govt for help in every aspect of your life.
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PostBy: grumpy On: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:05 pm

Yeah, How's that change working out for ya....
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PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:23 pm

plumb-r wrote: Can someone show me the silver lining cause I just don't. :mad:


Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you suspected it anyway. There is no silver lining in this health care bill. The damage being done as I write this and what's yet to be discovered will take us generations to recover from if we ever can. Your only recourse is to get involved in your local elections and replace anyone who has contributed to this treason. I say treason because the politicians knowing allowed this to happen. It's all on video tape or in print media. I don't care if they are Republican or Democrat - if they contributed to this, start now to replace them with fresh faces who will fight for you in Washington. Anything helps - even just putting up a yard sign or bumper sticker increases name recognition. Go for it! Lisa
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PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Mar 28, 2010 2:40 pm

There is a larger problem,Lisa....much larger........Rather than just removing the symptom(Marxist Elected Politicians) We have to treat the real illness-the voters who put these spores into Office. Our own Countrymen have elected these politicians. Also,after generations of hard diligent work,the left has broken the peoples will to trust Republicans. This has occurred in part by infiltration to the Republican party itself. Let's also never discount that the Republicans became the Party of Greed,Graft and Corruption. Now before all you Libs out there pop a deluxe boner,let me also say that the Democrat Party has also become the Party of Greed,Graft and Corruption with a Kicker-Solid Marxist Principals. I think I'll take the hooker on the right..yeah,the republican one..I might be able to make an honest woman out of her someday. That trainwreck on the left...nope,won't ever come clean. Get regular folks back into the voting booth is the difference of the whole picture.....Cripes,I've got to go wash my hands after typing this sordid business.
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PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sun Mar 28, 2010 4:12 pm

Hi Bob,

You are of course right on the money. We need to clean the whole nest out and start from scratch - Republican or Democrat if they are infected they have to go. No more RINOS, no more going along to get along. It has to stop now. That's why I'm working on the grass roots to get clean, upstanding young adults into the arena. We can make a difference but we have to step outside our comfort zone. It doesn't matter, just do it. Lisa
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PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Mar 28, 2010 5:06 pm

You are on the money,Lisa. also,sorry to be using hookers and what-not as examples in my post. I do hold women in the highest regard. Sometimes my plain-speaking examples get way to plain. No Fanfare,just good,hard and sometimes unforgiving work seems to be the order of the day. Also,it never hurts to get the "Hoser Detector" off the shelf,clean it up,tune it up and get it calibrated for alot of the phonies we'll find out there. I better buy alot of batteries! We can effect a positive change if we start at the grassroots level. Comfort Zone? Mine's been shot to hell since November of 2008,so I have no risks,nothing to lose and everything to gain. I definitely don't think we're in Kansas anymore,Toto ! :shock:
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PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:45 am

You know, I agree with you guys, but for a different reason.

Talk about hookers? It takes north of $1M to get elected to Congress in most districts these days. That ain't chicken feed. So politicians become whores for money. Money buys access and pays lobbyists to make the most of that access. Look at Ben Nelson and Joe Lieberman on my side: insurance whores. Chris Dodd: bank whore. And the GOP? The GOP is nothing but.

The answer? Two things: (1) get the money out, and (2) consider term limits. The first became much harder in January when the Supremes decided that corporations (you know, state-created fictions with limited liability) were full persons under our Constitution for purposes of political speech. Just like the ads for their drugs that aren't selling, the corporations have already started on their plan to "re-educate" us on the healthcare bill economics.

And term limits only will work if every state adopts them. Otherwise, it's just imposing a handicap on the states which have the good sense to enact them, while the others grab all the seniority.

So I agree: we need a whole lot of house-cleaning in D.C. And a whole lot less money going into the political process.
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PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Mon Mar 29, 2010 9:58 pm

stockingfull wrote:
Two things: (1) get the money out, and (2) consider term limits. The first became much harder in January when the Supremes decided that corporations (you know, state-created fictions with limited liability) were full persons under our Constitution for purposes of political speech. Just like the ads for their drugs that aren't selling, the corporations have already started on their plan to "re-educate" us on the healthcare bill economics.

And term limits only will work if every state adopts them. Otherwise, it's just imposing a handicap on the states which have the good sense to enact them, while the others grab all the seniority.

So I agree: we need a whole lot of house-cleaning in D.C. And a whole lot less money going into the political process.


Democrats are trial attorney, union, education, environmentalist and abortion whores. The money flows there quite well too. What's your point?

Personally, with the media we have, namely the Commie News Network et al, I think we need the corporations to re-educate the public on the horrors of the HCR laws.
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PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:11 pm

I'm not informed enough to know what HCR will mean for me. As I understand it now, eventually I'll have to pay a substantial fine to NOT have healthcare.
As I have mentioned before, the local Post Office was shut down due to not having adequate parking. They built a splendid new Post Office in another part of town, again with inadequate parking. This is the SNAFU method of bureaucracy. It seems like the master is getting ready to beat the slave to death.
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PostBy: samhill On: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:13 pm

I can`t believe what I just read, some on here finally owning up that it isn`t just a one sided problem, cause or fix. This has been going on for decades ladies & gentlemen what evil one side did surely the other could have fixed if they had wanted. Its both sides & until the majority of us quit fighting one another like both want they stay safe & sound in their comfy jobs with all the benefits paid for by us. There has to either be a third party that is not a clone or we have to start picking & choosing very carefully like we should have been doing all along.
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PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:16 pm

samhill wrote:I can`t believe what I just read, some on here finally owning up that it isn`t just a one sided problem, cause or fix. This has been going on for decades ladies & gentlemen what evil one side did surely the other could have fixed if they had wanted. Its both sides & until the majority of us quit fighting one another like both want they stay safe & sound in their comfy jobs with all the benefits paid for by us. There has to either be a third party that is not a clone or we have to start picking & choosing very carefully like we should have been doing all along.


Sorry Sam. Both parties are in the wrong on spending but the impetus for social spending came from the Democrats. Theirs is the errant ideology. I side with Hamden Bob in that the Republicans are the lesser of two evils. The problem for the Republicans of late is their penchant for war spending.
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PostBy: samhill On: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:27 pm

Again partial agreement, how did they fund their medicare bill? I could go on but thats not the point, you still insist that one is better than the other, look around with an open mind for a bit of a change theres a little less tan what something like 500 men & women that we elect to represent us & the balance of power keeps changing but the direction that we are governed never seems to. Just why is that?
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PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Mon Mar 29, 2010 10:38 pm

samhill wrote:Again partial agreement, how did they fund their medicare bill? I could go on but thats not the point, you still insist that one is better than the other, look around with an open mind for a bit of a change theres a little less tan what something like 500 men & women that we elect to represent us & the balance of power keeps changing but the direction that we are governed never seems to. Just why is that?


I side with the ideology of the Founders. Theirs was an ideology of independence, self reliance, liberty, & VERY SMALL government. There was no right to health care, retirement, welfare, or success. There was only a guarantee of opportunity and equality under law.

Find me the party that espouses that best.
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PostBy: samhill On: Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:27 am

But our founding fathers had no idea of what was to come. Their idea was to actually serve the country & then get out for another to serve, there really was no such thing as retirement, in many areas the local barber or store owner acted as doctor until one was found. My point on welfare has always been that it should be temp. not a way of life, should not be nor ever have been public housing or a free lunch, nothing for nothing, there is always something that could be done to earn your keep. Naturally I`m only talking about the able before someone jumps on that. Like I said in another post, if your on welfare as a means of life & don`t contribute to society then you should lose your right to vote. That would take away the politicians fear of doing something to eliminate slugs.
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