Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:40 pm

If I didn't read this I would have thought it was a joke. ... d_040210w/

Special Operations Command and now the Marine Corps are fielding a deadlier 5.56mm round, but the Army says soldiers can’t have it. Instead, the service is holding on to its dream of environmentally friendly ammunition.

Army ammunition officials are on their third attempt at redesigning the Cold War-era M855 5.56mm round by adding a better-performing, lead-free bullet. The service had to halt the M855A1 Lead-Free Slug program in July when the new bullet failed to perform under high temperatures. The setback delayed fielding by nearly a year.

The newest version of the green round is in the live-fire test phase, and Army officials said they are confident it will be ready for combat use by June.
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Re: Army Chooses Green over Deadly

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:55 pm

Good lord,in my police action :x even if we got a hit,not a take down,you pretty well knew there would be some good lead poisoning issues & as a corpsman I can say they were not pretty--the sh_t just keeps gettin deeper & deeper-do I blame this one on the fanatical tree huggers or just idiots in general -- :rambo2: :clap: I feel much better knowing that I 86'd him with a lead free slug :bang: :blowup:
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Re: Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

PostBy: brckwlt On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 7:42 pm

this is ridiculous, why not use the bullet thats going to do the job. This is just another example of "green" things not being up to par with its counterpart and costing us tons of extra money in the process.
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Re: Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Apr 04, 2010 9:19 pm

Green is all well & good in its place, saving energy. Killing your enemy should be done with the fastest most effective means possible with the least amount of exposure possible period. If they would have taken some napalm out of mothball & used it on the caves of Tora Bora it would have ended quickly, everytime we have something that works well we quit using it. Two of my other favorites were the Willie Pete & Flechette rockets, very effective & you don`t have to be right on target.
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Re: Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

PostBy: ken On: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:56 am

To many idoits running this country anymore. They can't be serious with this round. When the new rev starts will they be using them. Better yet is this what the feds need. ?????
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Re: Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:30 am

5.56 is great for volume

7.62 has more punch

the no lead experiment is a monster waste of money. how insane ;)
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Re: Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

PostBy: coalkirk On: Mon Apr 05, 2010 8:43 am

Oh come on you guys! If they just HOPE enough, I'm sure they can make a round from a soy extract that will only lightly get the attention of an enemy and perhaps help them see the error of their ways. No need to actually kill them, is there? :surrender:

We are truly screwed if things don't turn around soon. We are about to punish Iran for developing nukes by cutting off their access to maple syryp and Hostess twinkies.
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Re: Army Chooses Green Bullet over Deadly Bullet

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:15 am

They started with green ammo at Otis and found it was just as bad as lead with our acidic sandy soil...
The first attempt featured a tungsten-nylon blend that didn’t perform well and proved to be almost as harmful to the environment as lead.

Otis went back to lead but built a better bullet trap on the range that keeps the lead out of the groundwater...
We get most of our drinking water from underground water lenses and you end up drinking whatever you put in or on the ground...
Small arms training accounts for about 2,000 metric tons of lead going into the environment every year, Army officials say. The Army first began its quest for green ammunition in response to environmental groups that pressured some states to prohibit some National Guard units from using their training ranges.

Run-off from lead-contaminated soil can contaminate water sources that supply communities located near the ranges, environmental groups maintain.

The Army has a job to do and must do it effectively use the best tool to get the job done...
Change the bullet traps and keep the effective ammo...
32 million would build a bunch of green bullet traps...
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