The end of commerce

Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: acesover On: Sat Apr 17, 2010 8:47 pm

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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: ken On: Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:22 pm

Dam , I'll take a box of them for $50 each. Big Box :D Amazing how stupid people are to value of metals.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: Dann757 On: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:40 pm

What are you freakin kidding me? You been up there in the boonies too long. You NEVER buy anything like a $3000 vehicle sight unseen. Unless you want to be ripped off. I don't know about the bank checks, I've heard the bank will cash it, and it comes up bad a couple weks later and then you're screwed. I don't blame the lady though. Everybody is paranoid these days.

I bought my old Ranger off the street when gas was $4 a gallon. The old bitch stood there and swore to me, "My dead husband only used it to go to the flea market on Sundays." I got the truck home, lifted the bedliner and saw the bed was totally battered by firewood deliveries. Truck does have low miles, was still a decent deal, but the lady had to lie to my face. Turned out to be the same company that sold me one good cord of firewood, and the next one was garbage. This co. has a bad local reputation.

I bought a truck locally from an old mechanic that stood there and swore to me the truck was "sound". I was a rube and a patsy for not having the truck thoroughly checked out. I was in the wrong mood to buy. The trans was bad. I dropped the trans and had it rebuilt. I put it back in and put the truck for sale. Got no calls, except from a couple of scary guys from Queens. They told me up front they wanted to pay with $5 bills. They came out with a bag full of $5 bills and I sold the truck to them. It took me a while to count the money. I owed somebody some money and paid them with the $5 bills. They didn't care, they laughed about it.

I sold a VW for my wealthy customers a couple years ago, a couple of Spanish kids came up and paid 7.5k cash for it and drove off with a phony plate.
The same people sold a truck for $14k cash, and my customer's trophy wife put it in her candy cabinet. Chump change to her. I scolded her for leaving it in there. I was totally trusted by those people and welcome to the candy anytime. I was worried the maids would swipe it.

This is NJ, nasty, rotten, dishonest, dirty people of all kinds here. How's this for a rant?!

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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: rberq On: Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:47 am

titleist1 wrote:... paper money has no real value, only the relative value we place on it. As long as somebody is willing to give it value, I could have been "trading" colored seashells for what we wanted

Maine is on the Canadian border, so with people traveling back and forth there used to be a lot of Canadian pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters in circulation. Everyone (except the banks) accepted them freely without giving it a second thought. Even some vending machines took them. Maybe that is still true right along the border. But in my area of the state, the practice gradually died out when the exchange rate made Canadian about 35 per cent less valuable than US. Now I almost never see a Canadian coin, even though the exchange has returned to about one-for-one.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: djackman On: Sun Apr 18, 2010 1:10 pm

Richard S. wrote:I've never used it to sell anything but what I do know is if the buyer wants to give you a hassle they can.


As a buyer there's no worries except to make sure the funding source is your CC not your bank account. But as a seller never, ever, accept Paypal for anymore than you are willing to loose.

The is that Paypal will do nothing, zip, zlich, zero, nada to help you as a seller if the buyer files a chargeback. Roll over, play dead, hand over money. No personal experience with Google Checkout and chargebacks but I'd take chances there before Paypal.

Now, if the OP finds someone dumb enough to accept $3k by Paypal for a vehicle that won't be delivered with signature proof of delivery they might have themselves a free truck. :D
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: smokeyCityTeacher On: Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:42 am

Dan - what is the address of that house with the trophy wife and candy jar ?


Dann757 wrote:What are you freakin kidding me? You been up there in the boonies too long. You NEVER buy anything like a $3000 vehicle sight unseen. Unless you want to be ripped off. I don't know about the bank checks, I've heard the bank will cash it, and it comes up bad a couple weks later and then you're screwed. I don't blame the lady though. Everybody is paranoid these days.

I bought my old Ranger off the street when gas was $4 a gallon. The old bitch stood there and swore to me, "My dead husband only used it to go to the flea market on Sundays." I got the truck home, lifted the bedliner and saw the bed was totally battered by firewood deliveries. Truck does have low miles, was still a decent deal, but the lady had to lie to my face. Turned out to be the same company that sold me one good cord of firewood, and the next one was garbage. This co. has a bad local reputation.

I bought a truck locally from an old mechanic that stood there and swore to me the truck was "sound". I was a rube and a patsy for not having the truck thoroughly checked out. I was in the wrong mood to buy. The trans was bad. I dropped the trans and had it rebuilt. I put it back in and put the truck for sale. Got no calls, except from a couple of scary guys from Queens. They told me up front they wanted to pay with $5 bills. They came out with a bag full of $5 bills and I sold the truck to them. It took me a while to count the money. I owed somebody some money and paid them with the $5 bills. They didn't care, they laughed about it.

I sold a VW for my wealthy customers a couple years ago, a couple of Spanish kids came up and paid 7.5k cash for it and drove off with a phony plate.
The same people sold a truck for $14k cash, and my customer's trophy wife put it in her candy cabinet. Chump change to her. I scolded her for leaving it in there. I was totally trusted by those people and welcome to the candy anytime. I was worried the maids would swipe it.

This is NJ, nasty, rotten, dishonest, dirty people of all kinds here. How's this for a rant?!

CAVEAT EMPTOR
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: Dann757 On: Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:16 am

smokeyCityTeacher wrote:Dan - what is the address of that house with the trophy wife and candy jar ?


Enter at your own risk.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: RosalbaMaria On: Fri May 30, 2014 9:45 pm

Aside from fraud or scam scattered in internet sites, there is also a bogus goods that sold everywhere. Attracting buyers with expensive price to convince that it is branded product. However, the Department of Homeland Security is now making their moves to catch those illegal who continue do this activity. Article source: Consumers next target of anti-counterfeit crusaders?
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: jpete On: Fri May 30, 2014 10:12 pm

Gold and silver would fix all these problems. :D

RING TRUE, RING OF TRUTH

In the past coins were actually made of gold, silver or other metals. Their value depended on the amount of gold or silver they contained. Some people would make counterfeit coins by mixing gold or silver with a cheaper metal. However you could check if a coin was genuine by dropping it. If it was made of the proper metal it would 'ring true' of have the 'ring of truth'.


http://www.localhistories.org/sayings.html

Any smart counterfeiter would fake the 1's, 10's and 20's because thats what everyone accepts. Faking 100's isn't worth the effort because people ALWAYS look at them.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: DieselBob On: Sun Jun 01, 2014 12:17 am

jpete wrote:Gold and silver would fix all these problems. :D

RING TRUE, RING OF TRUTH

In the past coins were actually made of gold, silver or other metals. Their value depended on the amount of gold or silver they contained. Some people would make counterfeit coins by mixing gold or silver with a cheaper metal. However you could check if a coin was genuine by dropping it. If it was made of the proper metal it would 'ring true' of have the 'ring of truth'.


I am not a “prepper” or “doomsdayer” but I have change some “Fiat” money to “commodity” money which has a actual value that the gooberment has less control over.

Fiat money is money which derives its value from government regulation or law. It differs from commodity money, which is based on a good, often a precious metal such gold or silver, which has uses other than as a medium of exchange.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:26 am

The entire world runs on "Fiat" money the only difference is the trust & stability of the country of issue.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:06 am

NO it doesn't. Just the masses are forced to use it. The people of real means convert it into something tangible as soon as possible. The world would not use our fake paper if we did not force them to at the barrel of a gun.

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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:10 am

samhill wrote:The entire world runs on "Fiat" money the only difference is the trust & stability of the country of issue.


IMHO, faith has nothing to do with it. The main difference in the acceptance and valuation of fiat is the force of military might. And for those who are not Americans, if I'm a big enough military bully to force you to accept my fiat money as the worlds reserve currency and to make you buy everything of major importance that you purchase internationally with it alone, then my currency will gain tremendous value as a direct consequence.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:29 am

lsayre wrote:
samhill wrote:The entire world runs on "Fiat" money the only difference is the trust & stability of the country of issue.


IMHO, faith has nothing to do with it. The main difference in the acceptance and valuation of fiat is the force of military might. And for those who are not Americans, if I'm a big enough military bully to force you to accept my fiat money as the worlds reserve currency and to make you buy everything of major importance that you purchase internationally with it alone, then my currency will gain tremendous value as a direct consequence.



The main reason we went to Iraq.
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Re: The end of commerce

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:38 am

Then maybe we should run around the world occupying every other country we can overcome with our military might so everyone uses our money & ours alone. It worked out well all thru history, spoken like true chicken hawks but just who would pay for all this military might if the middle class is disappearing into the abbess of the pay nothings which will be forgotten & the top want their loopholes & business pays nothing, going to be interesting.
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