FDA to Regulate Salt

FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:29 pm

No it's not joke.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and- ... 9936.story

The Food and Drug Administration on Tuesday announced a gradual but potentially far-reaching effort to reduce the amount of salt Americans consume in a bid to combat high blood pressure, heart disease, strokes and other health problems that have soared to near-epidemic proportions.

The FDA's efforts will begin by seeking voluntary cutbacks by the food industry. But ultimately, the agency may resort to regulating acceptable levels of sodium in food and beverages.

"Nothing is off the table," said FDA spokeswoman Meghan Scott. "Everyone's in agreement that something needs to be done….We just don't know what it's going to look like."


At what point does the government intrusion into our lives become too much? I don't use much salt however there are certain things I like salty, the ridiculous amount of salt on peanuts come to mind......mmmmmmmmm salty peanuts. I enjoy them like that. There is lot of stuff I don't buy because of the amount of salt such as certain brands of potato chips. Now the government is going to make that choice for me because I'm apparently too dumb to do it myself. .
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:48 pm

Salt can lead to poor health...
Higher medical costs...
Save money by reducing salt in the diet...
Those damm sick and fat people are making health care reform be too expensive...
Government managed/run/owned health care soon telling you what you can or can not eat...
Hey your BMI is over 26...
Off to the treadmill you ...
Put down those boiled peanuts and pork rinds...
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 12:25 am

The really funny thing is that salt doesn't cause HBP. It merely exacerbates it if you already have it. Those who have HBP mainly manage it with drugs and their own restrictions on salt. The government can regulate your salt intake all it likes but it won't change anyone's health or the national expense.

Though there is a correlation between HBP and societies with high salt intake, there is also a correlation with obesity, age, and low water intake. My money is on a combination of those factors plus heredity (kidneys that are weaker) as the cause.

Like the "anthropogenic" global warming issue, the all-to-powerful government is "tilting toward windmills" and wasting our money in the process.
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: djackman On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 2:11 am

Great, soon will have to show papers to buy salt (in restricted quantities per day of course) just like allergy medicine with pseudoephedrine.

Psst! hey buddy, I got a stash of real Morton's if you're hurting for a fix with your fries.... $5 a dash :D
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:18 am

This crap just gets sillier & sillier--I think I really meant pathetic--the more I see,the more realistic the concept of shootin some of these A-holes comes to mind :(
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:57 am

CapeCoaler wrote:Salt can lead to poor health...
Higher medical costs...
Save money by reducing salt in the diet...
Those damm sick and fat people are making health care reform be too expensive...
Government managed/run/owned health care soon telling you what you can or can not eat...
Hey your BMI is over 26...
Off to the treadmill you ...
Put down those boiled peanuts and pork rinds...


As I have said on here before I am more than willing to be the health czar making the decisions for people that are too lazy to make their own. :P

In this country we have always had access to preventive care, its called eating right and exercising. That combination would be a miracle cure for the vast majority of ailments. But as a society we are too lazy to do that and want to take a pill to cure all our ills. I see it firsthand in my immediate family. Family members that are overweight and don't exercise wondering why they never get off their diabetes meds or why their knee and hip joints break down and need replacement or won't quit smoking and wonder why they have respiratory issues. Generally they don't complain about their ills around me any more since my first question to them is when was the last time they got off the couch and walked around the block for some exercise. Well, since gov't health care is now taking a more active role in paying for that pill and treatment and my taxes contribute to that, I now deserve a say in how society addresses it's health.

Please understand, as the health czar I don't want to limit what or how you eat, I just want to make sure you realize the consequences and exercise off those calories you just took in from eating that large bag of pork rinds with that supersized 2 liter bottle of "diet" pepsi before I have to contribute to treating your "condition". In my case it would be a large bag of cool ranch doritos which I can empty in one evening while watching a baseball game. But to counteract those calories I will run the dog a little extra, walk the 18 holes rather than using a golf cart, push mow the yard rather than use the riding mower, use steps rather than the escalator/elevator, mix in a larger salad for lunch rather than a big mac, etc, etc, etc. I worked out with a guy that told me he worked out like a crazy person so he could go clubbing and drink like a crazy person - and he did!

It's all about choices and society in general is only following through on the first half of their choice and I am willing to push society to the inevitable second half of their choice.

Once you all see how effective and efficient I am at this preventive care thing you can appoint me to be the welfare czar as well. I have a few ideas about birth control while on welfare I'd like to implement - temporary and permanent birth control. Once again I don't want to limit how much fooling around you do, just the consequences of your fun since I get to "contribute" to cleaning up the situation... :lol:
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:19 am

The bigger issue is what roll government should have in public health standards. Let's take this current bash the government thread. Perhaps we should insist the added iodine in salt be removed. After all it's there because the government requires it to be there. Maybe it's just better to have iodine deficiency and it's suffer a population with preventable mental retardation. When the USSR fell, the salt producers eliminated iodine because it was cheaper to do so. Iodine deficiency in the population when up.

Clearly most processed foods have way more salt than is necessary. Manufactures put it in because it's a preservative and it increases a products shelf life. Yes, you currently have a choice, to prepare your own food with healthier lower salt levels but it's not the life style of the general population. I don't think you will find any nutritionist making the case for keeping the current salt levels in processed foods. It aggravates certain health issues. Why is there such an aversion to reasonable regulation that serves a public good?
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:39 am

Why is there such an aversion to living your life as you see fit without Big Brother coming in and doing it for you?

Even if it leads you to clutching your chest and hitting the deck like my grandfather did at 55.

If you don't want retarded kids due to low iodine levels, feed them stuff with iodine. But government comes in and mandates iodine in salt then tells us that too much iodized salt is bad and we can't have it anymore. In the report I heard, they said sea salt doesn't appear to be as harmful as iodized. That tells me it's probably the iodine, not the salt.

Don't worry. I live near the ocean. Anyone that wants salt can meet at my house and we can have a short march to the sea to get as much salt as we want. :D
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: Dann757 On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:50 am

Yanche wrote:Why is there such an aversion to reasonable regulation that serves a public good?

Good question. Maybe people want Liberty. Maybe that raises another question of who determines what is "the public good".
I think most citizens are getting tired of more and more regulations, except the bleeding heart Liberals.

There's a big anti-flouride movement too, how does flouride constitute "the public good"? Many think it is downright evil and poisonous. I don't mind it myself, but it scares a lot of people and they avoid it.

Imagine looking out your Obama mandated windows at US citizens chasing down the street after a salt truck in January; getting on their hands and knees to pick up salt. To eat and trade for $15 a gallon gas for their Obama mandated smart cars. No more swimming in the oceans or making salt at the seashore like Ghandi wanted to do to oppose brutal British tyranny in his own country.

Take it with a grain of salt.

I heard that a human baby has no taste for salt, it's acquired. There is also no need in human nutrition for refined sugar.

A huge portion of the world lives in abject poverty, and Americans complain that everybody is getting too unhealthy.
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:17 am

There's a reason why you have four types of taste buds and one of them is salt. You will die without it.
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:55 am

Yanche wrote:Why is there such an aversion to reasonable regulation that serves a public good?


It's reasonable that you shouldn't jump out of perfectly good airplane either but people do it every day. What is reasonable today will morph into the unreasonable down the road after a few decades. That is why they are admittedly doing this over a decade, a decade from now there will be regulations in place in how much salt preprocessed food can contain. 2 decades from now they will regulating how much restaurants can use in the food they make. 3 decades from now you won't find a salt shaker in any restaurants because they will be forbidden. 4 decades from now salt will be very expensive because of the ever increasing salt tax on anything over your monthly allotment that also dictates how much sugar you buy, how much bacon you can buy, how much beef you buy.
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:09 am

Lets see,4 decades--I'll be 105--they better not mess w/ my bacon or beef :)
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 11:19 am

Don't look now, but NYC is ahead of the curve on this.

http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/local_n ... 100310-akd

And they already limit your sugar intake because there is a protective tariff on against imported sugar. Has been since the 1800's. That's why we eat so much high fructose corn syrup.
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:35 pm

Is anyone really surprised?
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Re: FDA to Regulate Salt

PostBy: brckwlt On: Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:40 pm

im not, nothing surprises me. nothing at all
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