Safe Saw

Safe Saw

PostBy: Sting On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 11:47 am

any one got one of these or feed back on them?


http://www.sawstop.com/contractor/contractor_home.php
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Seriously thinking about selling my 5 saws and getting one of these and a new power miter box

:idea:
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: brckwlt On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:44 pm

I have herd of these saws and had a guy that saw them at a tool show tell me about them. I have never personally used one. If i were you id sell you other saws and buy one of these if you can afford them. They have to be the most safe saw you can possibly buy. This saw also seems to be one of the more advanced saws on the market as well.

If money isnt an issue i would buy the 5 hp Industrial saw. I would think it would last a life time. And when you pass on from this beautiful life you could leave it to me in your will :D


http://www.burnstools.com/customer/bupoto/images/pdf/SawStop_Pricing_Flyer.pdf
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Dont forget to add all of the bells and whistles as well
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:54 pm

I have the Bosch 4100, and will never need another jobsite saw ever. The proprietary blade guard really works! It is one guard that is EASY to remove, but you don't need to remove it often. With the guard on, you can see the wood, direct line of sight, right to the blade.
That "0 Gravity Rise" is pretty cool too. No more back strains.

Damn, I sound like a freegen commercial now.

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-4100-09-10- ... B000S5S5CW
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: Dann757 On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:37 pm

$1599 for the cheapest one....

I have a garage sale Craftsman that I've been hacking my way through wood with for the last 20yrs. Keep the belt a little loose and the blade usually stops when it hits the bone.

Never cut myself yet, knock wood. Have been punched in the stomach by a pinched rip, you know, the board flys off the table hahahahah.



Also have a lightweight portable direct drive 10" Makita that does good work, pretty strong motor. It's a real screamer though loud as hell.

I like the pics of all the guys saved by the sawstop. If they had regular saws they'd all look like Jerry Garcia.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:02 pm

Yes, those are good saws, I have heard good things about them, however, if it does STOP, you have to replace the cartridge/blade, etc (it's like an airbag going off)...not cheap. It's not like to can down to you local hardware store and buy another mechanism..... It can trip if the wood is wet or certain conditions exist, not just your finger.

Do you research and see what others on the internet have to say about it.
I also browse http://www.sawmillcreek.org (Woodworking forums) and search on the SawStop.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: Sting On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:32 pm

WNY wrote:Yes, those are good saws, I have heard good things about them, however, if it does STOP, you have to replace the cartridge/blade, etc (it's like an airbag going off)...not cheap. It's not like to can down to you local hardware store and buy another mechanism..... It can trip if the wood is wet or certain conditions exist, not just your finger.

Do you research and see what others on the internet have to say about it.
I also browse http://www.sawmillcreek.org (Woodworking forums) and search on the SawStop.


Thats the advice I was looking for

Thank-you :D :D :D

typing with one finger sucks.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 7:24 pm

For the money they want you ought to be able to drive it to different job sites.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:38 pm

WNY wrote:however, if it does STOP, you have to replace the cartridge/blade, etc (it's like an airbag going off)...not cheap.

$70 a pop.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: rubicondave33 On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:51 pm

coaledsweat wrote:
WNY wrote:however, if it does STOP, you have to replace the cartridge/blade, etc (it's like an airbag going off)...not cheap.

$70 a pop.

70$ versus a trip to the hospital, and MAYBE having your finger(s), hand or whatever repaired or reattached. It's a no brainer if you ask me.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: rubicondave33 On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 8:53 pm

BTW I actually witnessed the sawstop device demonstrated at a safety convention a few years ago. They used a hot dog, just like the video. The device operates like a GFCI does.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: Sting On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:05 pm

70 for the cartridge

maybe what? another 30-40 to replace the blade

Right now --- I would trade for that. I would even accept the cost of false stops today

Sold my Radial arm saw tonight - table saw maybe tomorrow. Think ill just junk my old miterbox because the guard sticks.

Time for me to move on to equipment I can keep up to vs the old (I hate that word) way.......
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: the snowman On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:11 pm

I watched a demonstration by the inventor using his own finger. The saw did not cut his finger. You do not have to purchase the entire saw to have the protection of the saw stop. You can purchase the unit and retrofit it to your saw or at least most mid range cabinet saws. I do not believe you can put one on a direct drive unit. When the unit activates, it fuses the saw blade and the saw stop unit together. So, you will have to replace your blade and the saw stop unit. Small price to pay for finger protection.

If money is a concern, you can make your existing saw more safe by installing a properly adjusted riving knife, use feather boards and use push sticks when the distance between your fence and the blade is smaller than the diameter of your fist, don't wear loose clothing, always use a sharp blade, and pay attention when your using the saw. Stats show that most saw accidents happen to individuals who are the most experienced with the saw and not the newbe. The newbe pays strict attention where the seasoned wood worker becomes comfortable around the saw and lowers his/her guard. This is when most accidents with table saws happen. In my shop, if your attention is not 100 percent focused on the machine and what your doing, the machine is turned off for that person has no place working with that machine or any other. Safety first, I would rather ruin an expensive piece of exotic hardwood than have a finger, hand or whatever else removed by a machine. If your tired or in a hurry, do not use the machine for your risk of injury is higher than normal. In my shop, these guidelines are strictly followed and enforced. The only accidents that happen in the shop once in awhile is someone will drop a piece of wood on their foot. This is just my two cents on the subject.

the snowman.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:19 pm

rubicondave33 wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:
WNY wrote:however, if it does STOP, you have to replace the cartridge/blade, etc (it's like an airbag going off)...not cheap.

$70 a pop.

70$ versus a trip to the hospital, and MAYBE having your finger(s), hand or whatever repaired or reattached. It's a no brainer if you ask me.

I wasn't disparaging it, just stating the cost of the stop. It truly is a remarkable accomplishment and agree it should be in everyone's arsenal.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Apr 28, 2010 7:30 am

I tend to agree with snowman safety first must always be on everyones mind, sometimes the more idiot proof you make something the more it leads to wondering minds rather than on the job at hand & that gets you in trouble. Not to say that it isn`t a great idea but just too pricey for everyone to run out & buy.
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Re: Safe Saw

PostBy: Sting On: Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:10 am

Sam - I shared your view

Until Sunday about 3 in the afternoon :o
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