YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Tue May 11, 2010 5:06 am

wlape3 wrote: (on the low end of marginal).
What a great expression! I hope I can remember it the next time my son asks how the kitchen looks after he "cleaned" it. :D

Have a great day! Lisa
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: Yanche On: Tue May 11, 2010 8:40 am

wlape3 wrote:
Yanche wrote:A recent new service is wireless service. 768Kb Symmetrical $69/month (2 Year Term), $99 One Time Activation Fee (No Equipment or Installation Charges) It uses a 6 GHz RF link to a local cell tower. A small transceiver is mounted to the outside of your home. It must have line of sight to the cell tower. It's cheaper and faster than satellite Internet service.


They have the wireless service here with 3G I think. You pay about the same as satellite for the top-end service but the download limit is about 1/3 that of satellite for about the same price. I like downloading movies here and there and buy most of my software on-line. I also have 3 PCs needing software updates. Satellite is not as reliable as wireless (it seems less affected by poor weather) but it's still a better value for me at this time. Service also sux for satellite. Here you have a choice between Hughes (poor) and Wildblue (on the low end of marginal). When I had Comcast the service wasn't much better but the reliability was.


Don't confuse the "wireless" service I'm describing with wireless from a cell phone company. It's a direct RF link to use using a communications transceiver mounted on your house. The cell tower is just used to mount the company's transceiver. It has omni-directional coverage but the transceiver on your home is uni-directional line of sight to the tower. It's a small but growing industry. The company in my area, Freedom Wireless Broadband (http://www.fwbnet.net/) is privately owned by 5 guys that have full time other jobs. They rent tower space wherever they can. Cell towers, water towers, power transmission towers, etc. They provide high speed Internet access where there will never be cable or FIOS. For example farmers, that need access for running their business but the cable or fiber run down their driveway is way too long to be affordable. I've got a lot of friends with 1/4 mile or longer driveways. While cable may be on the public street getting a cable run to them is way too costly. Direct RF wireless provides a solution.
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue May 11, 2010 8:54 am

Latency sucks on the dish...
Wisps, wireless internet service providers, are a decent alternative to satalite internet...
A decent pipe to the internet, some antennas and a tower to hang it on...
Was looking into it for a customer who had the Hughes dish and needed better...
The wisp part would pay for the T1 line and they would have cheap internet...
They bit the cable bullet and wrote the $10k check to have Comcast bring in their line instead...
They had renters who needed it and they were paying $20k per week so the hit was not that bad :lol: ...
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue May 11, 2010 8:59 am

Capecoaler,I just gotta check---do them( "k's) mean thousand---20,000 a week---I'd sell them 1/3 of the old farm for that :lol:
CapeCoaler wrote:Latency sucks on the dish...
Wisps, wireless internet service providers, are a decent alternative to satalite internet...
A decent pipe to the internet, some antennas and a tower to hang it on...
Was looking into it for a customer who had the Hughes dish and needed better...
The wisp part would pay for the T1 line and they would have cheap internet...
They bit the cable bullet and wrote the $10k check to have Comcast bring in their line instead...
They had renters who needed it and they were paying $20k per week so the hit was not that bad :lol: ...
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: wlape3 On: Tue May 11, 2010 4:48 pm

Yanche wrote:
wlape3 wrote:
Yanche wrote:A recent new service is wireless service. 768Kb Symmetrical $69/month (2 Year Term), $99 One Time Activation Fee (No Equipment or Installation Charges) It uses a 6 GHz RF link to a local cell tower. A small transceiver is mounted to the outside of your home. It must have line of sight to the cell tower. It's cheaper and faster than satellite Internet service.


They have the wireless service here with 3G I think. You pay about the same as satellite for the top-end service but the download limit is about 1/3 that of satellite for about the same price. I like downloading movies here and there and buy most of my software on-line. I also have 3 PCs needing software updates. Satellite is not as reliable as wireless (it seems less affected by poor weather) but it's still a better value for me at this time. Service also sux for satellite. Here you have a choice between Hughes (poor) and Wildblue (on the low end of marginal). When I had Comcast the service wasn't much better but the reliability was.


Don't confuse the "wireless" service I'm describing with wireless from a cell phone company. It's a direct RF link to use using a communications transceiver mounted on your house. The cell tower is just used to mount the company's transceiver. It has omni-directional coverage but the transceiver on your home is uni-directional line of sight to the tower. It's a small but growing industry. The company in my area, Freedom Wireless Broadband (http://www.fwbnet.net/) is privately owned by 5 guys that have full time other jobs. They rent tower space wherever they can. Cell towers, water towers, power transmission towers, etc. They provide high speed Internet access where there will never be cable or FIOS. For example farmers, that need access for running their business but the cable or fiber run down their driveway is way too long to be affordable. I've got a lot of friends with 1/4 mile or longer driveways. While cable may be on the public street getting a cable run to them is way too costly. Direct RF wireless provides a solution.


Sounds like the old microwave type receivers they used to have for areas where cable wasn't offered. THey probably don't have those where I am because there are too many big hills and no really tall ones.

When I lived in PA my driveway was about 1/8th of a mile but I still had cable. Guess that's pretty much the limit for service. Here I've got to pay Time Warner $10K for the priviledge of buying cable service from them. My driveway is about 1/3 of what it was in PA but here there are only 6 houses on my road for 1.5 miles.
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: Yanche On: Tue May 11, 2010 5:43 pm

Well, I don't know where you live but American Tower lists a tower in Delanson, NY. See:

http://www.americantower.com/sitelocator/default.aspx

You can map it and how far your home might be. If it's within line of sight you can call American Tower and find out who's equipment is mounted on their tower. You just might get lucky and have a rural Internet provider.
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Tue May 11, 2010 10:04 pm

Capecoaler,I just gotta check---do them( "k's) mean thousand---20,000 a week---I'd sell them 1/3 of the old farm for that


Yep k=000
But you sit on 15 acres with a very nice bluff location over looking Cape Cod Bay...
nobody anywhere near you, a tidal river, 7 bedrooms and a separate bunk/game house...
I do mean house...
Kitchen, full bath, garage, shop and two bedrooms...
There is nothin' like sitting out on the lawn and watching the sunset with a Cigar and Bourbon...
The renters were involved with Eastern Block oil companies and they wanted some privacy...
Very nice people...
Down in Chatham on Shore Road they dropped 10 million on a home remodeling project...
That does not include the original purchase price...
And there is at least 5 other major construction projects going on within 1 mile of that house...

There is a fair amount of money on The Cape and if you are lucky enough to afford your mortgage payments...
There is quality work to be had...
Normal houses here are not cheap, nothing less than 300k unless you are in a problem neighborhood...
Most run 375-575k if you have 3 bedrooms and a acre lot...
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue May 11, 2010 10:18 pm

Yep - a genuine bargain in MA. :roll: The people out there ( no offense Cape Coaler - I know your one of the normal ones! ;) ) think MA begins & ends at 495. They think we still use outhouses out where I live! :lol:

I pay $21.99 for Verizon DSL. Was worth the money the first 2 years we had it. Went from about 900 kb/s to 650kb/s as of late. I get CPU RAGE waiting for pages to load! :mad: Loading 2 pages at once? HA! Welcome to pre-dial up speeds.

One time I tried uploading 2 pics: one to eBay & one to Webshots ... then tried to check the weather on a local TV station's website. Took a solid 4 minutes for the page to appear. Just damn painful. VERIZON SUCKS!! :mad:
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Re: YOUR PRICE FOR LIFE

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed May 12, 2010 7:06 am

Damn Smitty,I guess you buying part of the farm is out---Verizon sux out here too--we've got Frontier DSL---$19.95 + $4.00 for the modum--it is quicker then the dial-up we had--I'm fearful that it is just a 1 yr tease--we'll see--I can't find my paperwork--maybe today I'll actually look for it :)
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