Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat May 29, 2010 11:12 pm

Hi Nortcan,
Here is a picture for size comparison. All the measurements for the stove are in the first post. But I don't know if you do English measures or Metric. Also here is a picture of a Glenwood No 109 base burner. The 109 is the smallest in the series I think.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun May 30, 2010 3:41 am

DOUG wrote:I'm still researching these Glenwood Base Burners. I've been looking to see the different styles and models that they made. There seems to be quite a few. It appears that the 1905 and earlier models have two windows in the feed door, while the 1906 and later models have three windows in the feed door. Some have the foot rest and some don't. I just don't know yet. Doing all of this homework is just part of all the fun. :) Thanks for sharing all the great attributes of this stove. :)


Doug;
You gotta get one with the footrests. There is nothing like putting a set of wet, cold, tired and sore feet up on the footrest while you are propped in a comfy chair. Don't forget your hot beverage of choice to go along with it. Footrests are required accessories in the Sherrick household I tell you now. :)
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun May 30, 2010 8:21 am

Doug,just make sure you don't do what I did many yrs ago--came in from the snow w/ a pair of wet ,new Frye boots & set them by my parlor stove,passed out for the night(drunker then a skunk) & in the morning had to K-Bar the boot tops to get them on--damn leather :lol:---damn good heatin stove :)
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: dlj On: Mon May 31, 2010 10:00 pm

Well I finally got to taking a few photos of the tool I was talking about. The first shot is the shovel and coal rake leaning against my stove so you get an idea of their length. Next is a close-up of the buisness end of the rake along with a 6 inch rule for sizing. Then a bad photo of the rake in position to adjust one of the door dampers. Sorry for the fuzzy photo, I was holding the rake in one hand and shooting the camera with the other hand... The rake also works to smooth over the ash in the ash pan to level it out before taking it out, works well to scrap the ash out of the inside of the bottom of the stove when it falls out of the ash pan, works great to open and close the doors, adjust the flue damper and the valve to put it in baseburner mode. I also use it all the time to manipulate my fire when it's running. I know a lot of folk here say you aren't supposed to mess with a coal fire, but since I started out as a blacksmith buring coal in a forge, those coal fires are highly manipulated to control them and I do the same with my stove, not as much or as often, but probably a lot more than most...

dj
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:01 pm

Thanks for the pictures dj. I will find someone to make up one of those for myself.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:06 pm

DOUG wrote:My radar is on now! I just may become a member of the Glenwood Stove society too!

Just for fun, I talked to Larry Trainer, the designer and manufacture of the Coal Stove Chubby, about this base burner design from the past and he told me, "Sure a Chubby could be designed to use this type of base burning unit. The obvious advantage would be the ash pan area for a large ash pan. Years ago I considered this approach but there was little market for an upright free standing stove in the current market. Also, the foundries aren't set up to make small intricate fancy thin pieces with facing sand like they did years ago. People could get an antique at a reasonable price if they wanted to. Although they are great to look at they need to have a place in the home and in the market. Unfortunately these days aren't back quite yet but may not be far away."

So from what I gather, if Chubbys start selling more, we may have the opportunity to see not only new Chubby Stoves be produced again, but possibly new Chubby Stove products! This is where us anthracite coal burners need to start to speak with their pocket books and help rekindle this yesteryear anthracite coal burning appliance technology. Let's all buy a Chubby from Larry to jump start this revolution! :idea: :D


It is obvious to me that Mr. Trainer modeled his stove after the good ones made at the Turn Of The Century and he had to work within the constraints of the modern lack of proper industrial facilities. I think he has done a masterful job. I find it gratifying that he is aware of how good the old baseburners are and if the demand for them came from informed consumers. He would make them.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:17 am

Here is the thread on Glenwood Baseheaters. I decided to bump it up for those having questions. Feel free to ask away.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Dec 24, 2010 1:51 am

Sorry didn't mean to bump this back up.
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:03 pm

I decided to take the No. 6 apart this summer and re-seal everything. When I took it apart I discovered that the cast iron back plate that holds the exhaust mainifold onto the barrel was cracked. This is a critical joint in the stove and it must be perfectly air tight and strong to withstand the thermal pressure that that area is exposed to. I had a copy made of 1/4 inch steel plate and fitted it in with fender washers to distribute the holding force of the bolts. Both sides, inside and out are completely sealed with a solid coat of furnace cement. The repair should last for a decade of hard use.
I thought you might like to see it. It was a bear to line everything up and get the bolts through at the same time. I only needed 8 hands and 3.75 arms plus elbows to get it in there correctly. But somehow I did it.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: rasct On: Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:36 pm

William,
Looks great, would love to see some more pictures of the rebuild. I am departing on the same journey soon to get my No.6 ready for this season. The post will be started soon with many questions to ask.
I am also going to start the hunt for the secondary air ring soon, I know a couple of other guys also need them. Has anyone made any headway?

Rob
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:17 pm

rasct wrote:William,
Looks great, would love to see some more pictures of the rebuild. I am departing on the same journey soon to get my No.6 ready for this season. The post will be started soon with many questions to ask.
I am also going to start the hunt for the secondary air ring soon, I know a couple of other guys also need them. Has anyone made any headway?

Rob


Thanks Rob,
I guess I should have taken pictures of the whole process, but; once I got started the single minded focus was to get the stove all back together. It's all back toegether and all polished up, ready to go. I haven't hooked it up yet because I am determined to get or build a hearth for it this year. This stove is much too grand to be sitting on a concrete floor.
As far as the other parts go I haven't heard anything from anyone yet. Things are starting to pick up now that Fall is upon us. You better hurry with yours time is running out quicker than you might think.
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:30 pm

wsherrick wrote:I decided to take the No. 6 apart this summer and re-seal everything. When I took it apart I discovered that the cast iron back plate that holds the exhaust mainifold onto the barrel was cracked. This is a critical joint in the stove and it must be perfectly air tight and strong to withstand the thermal pressure that that area is exposed to. I had a copy made of 1/4 inch steel plate and fitted it in with fender washers to distribute the holding force of the bolts. Both sides, inside and out are completely sealed with a solid coat of furnace cement. The repair should last for a decade of hard use.
I thought you might like to see it. It was a bear to line everything up and get the bolts through at the same time. I only needed 8 hands and 3.75 arms plus elbows to get it in there correctly. But somehow I did it.


Nice job Will. Is it the place where there were vertical grills?
Will you light it with kero this year?
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:30 pm

nortcan wrote:
wsherrick wrote:I decided to take the No. 6 apart this summer and re-seal everything. When I took it apart I discovered that the cast iron back plate that holds the exhaust mainifold onto the barrel was cracked. This is a critical joint in the stove and it must be perfectly air tight and strong to withstand the thermal pressure that that area is exposed to. I had a copy made of 1/4 inch steel plate and fitted it in with fender washers to distribute the holding force of the bolts. Both sides, inside and out are completely sealed with a solid coat of furnace cement. The repair should last for a decade of hard use.
I thought you might like to see it. It was a bear to line everything up and get the bolts through at the same time. I only needed 8 hands and 3.75 arms plus elbows to get it in there correctly. But somehow I did it.


Nice job Will. Is it the place where there were vertical grills?
Will you light it with kero this year?


Thanks Nortcan,
The part you see here goes behind the vent grill. The vent fits over the top of the back plate. I will put it back on when I hook up the stove. Yes, I will probably use the Charcoal and Kerosene method this year. You can use gell starter or regular charcoal lighter fluid if you want. You just need something to start up the charcoal.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Aug 30, 2011 9:05 am

Well done Will, Looks like an excellent repair and does not look like it was easy! Starting to be a hair nippier in the mornings these days. It's still over the horizon but certainly on it's way! By the way, after you tore the stove down, did you find anything besides that cracked collar that needed attending to? Were the old seal pretty tight? I would think they probably were since you had a great season with it in 10. Hard to imagine it getting any better! Good piece of mind though, knowing its sealed up tight and good to go.
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Re: Glenwood Baseheater-Specs, Photos and Performance

PostBy: wsherrick On: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:04 am

SteveZee wrote:Well done Will, Looks like an excellent repair and does not look like it was easy! Starting to be a hair nippier in the mornings these days. It's still over the horizon but certainly on it's way! By the way, after you tore the stove down, did you find anything besides that cracked collar that needed attending to? Were the old seal pretty tight? I would think they probably were since you had a great season with it in 10. Hard to imagine it getting any better! Good piece of mind though, knowing its sealed up tight and good to go.


The stove was fine before I decided to take it apart. But my obsessive-compulsive nature wouldn't allow me to just leave it alone. I will bother with something until it is perfect or I break it. I learned a lot about the stove and how it goes together now. The thing I really learned though is to take your time with it and watch what you are doing. It's really frustrating to cement parts together and bolt them up only to learn you forgot to put on the piece that goes on first and now you have to take it all apart again.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

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