EFM 350

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:34 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:
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I now own this bad boy, American Radiator 3 pass and the price was right...free! There's another one like it on the way. Took four of us to lift it into the truck.


Did you ever that thing hooked up?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:38 pm

No, it's out in the barn. I have another one exactly like it now. I'm going to use them in the pole barn if I ever get lines from the house for heating.

The other radiators are still sitting there too, the only hydronic zone I have completed so far is the kitchen.

I found the date of the last cleaning, it was November 02, 2014. I let it go too long. The 10 gallon shop vac felt like I was carrying a bag of bricks up the cellar stairs when I was finished. :lol:
CoalHeat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sun Dec 27, 2015 2:38 pm

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Is that your draft inducer back in there?
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker Koker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Casting Vigilant II 2310
Other Heating: #2 Oil Furnace

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Mon Dec 28, 2015 1:15 pm

Yes, that's it.
CoalHeat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:11 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:Yes, that's it.

:!: :idea:
When I first saw the picture I was asking myself "why the hell does he have a couple of fire brick laying in the bottom of his exhaust pipe?"
:P :roll:
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker Koker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Casting Vigilant II 2310
Other Heating: #2 Oil Furnace

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:22 pm

Hard to tell what it is. There's a baffle first and then the blades of the fan behind it.
CoalHeat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Sun Sep 18, 2016 7:00 pm

I would like to thank Scottscoaled for the very nice EFM temperature/pressure gauge. It's perfect!!! I've been wanting one of these for a while.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Thu Sep 29, 2016 6:30 pm

I got the bug to start working on those radiators I have for the house. I need to get them out of the barn, they are in the way. There are 7 of them, they all need to be powerwashed first. 2 came out of the house I grew up in, one came from Dave (thank you), and the other 4 came from eBay, those 4 were on a steam system so they need to be flushed out thoroughly and I have to use the fire-wrench to get the plug out of the one end, as well as the plug where the air bleed goes. 3 of them have heavy coats of paint on them too.

The other 3 were on hot water systems, they don’t have a lot of paint on them either.

Once they are cleaned and painted I can sit them where they will eventually be connected in the various rooms in the house.

I have 3 matching units for downstairs, 2 identical 6 pass units for the front room and one that had an additional section or two for the dining room.

For upstairs I have 2 that match from my childhood house, the one from Dave, and a kinda tall 6 pass that weighs a ton. Mix and match!!!

All seat-of-the-pants engineering here. The correct way is to do a bunch of cal-cul-la-tions that I don’t quite understand (including a heat loss figure for the house…oh I got that already…a lot), and research and research to try and find the BTU output for each radiator so they are sized correctly.
Sections are added or removed to obtain the correct output.

Or…I can just look at the radiator and think about what I remember about the sizes of radiators I’ve seen in houses all my life and say “Yea, that looks about right” like I did in the kitchen.
CoalHeat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

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Re: EFM 350

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:20 pm

Start watching eBay for good deals on zone valves and thermostats...then you can set each room at whatever temperature you want. :)
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:38 pm

Good idea. At this point I'm happy just to be able to get away from forced hot air. I just looked back, I collected those radiators 4 years ago!

My plan is just to have the 1st and 2nd floor on separate zones. Lot of work involved, plus I plan to move the EFM as well, further away from the bin once the oil furnace is gone so I can get around it without twisting and squeezing. I can just fit between the boiler and the coal bin now-sideways. I plan on doing all the plumbing in the house first, working towards the boiler, same as I did with the kitchen zone.

The Lennox oil furnace will be for sale once I get that far along. Been using it as an air handler for years now, maybe 20 hours on the burner...if that much.
CoalHeat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:43 pm

How hard is it to run the piping upstairs? I ended up running some pex through the corner of a downstairs closet.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:11 pm

Excellent question, and one I have spent lots of time thinking about. The bathroom, which is on the 2nd floor, is above the cellar stairs. I can easily get the piping up to the second floor there. I'm just not sure exactly how I'm going to make the run from room to room to connect all 4 radiators. I might run the pipes along the baseboard and box them in. There's not a lot of options unless I open the first floor ceiling, which I really don't want to do. I remember my aunt and uncle's house that had central steam heat installed well after the house was built, the plumbers just ran the iron pipe right through the 1st floor rooms, they were painted the same color as the walls. :o
CoalHeat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:46 am

Wood'nCoal wrote: I remember my aunt and uncle's house that had central steam heat installed well after the house was built, the plumbers just ran the iron pipe right through the 1st floor rooms, they were painted the same color as the walls.


My grandmothers Victorian is the same way. I never thought it looked out of place, just part of having a 100+ year old home.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Fri Sep 30, 2016 8:36 am

Exactly!
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: EFM 350

PostBy: CoalHeat On: Sun Oct 23, 2016 10:46 pm

5 of them are done, 3 are in the house. 2 more to go.
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CoalHeat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Baseburners & Antiques: Sears Signal Oak 15 & Andes Kitchen Range
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

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