Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: DOUG On: Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:30 am

Impressive! :D It is coming along well.
DOUG
 
Stove/Furnace Make: CHUBBY, D.S.MACHINE BOILER
Stove/Furnace Model: CLAYTON 1600

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Oct 18, 2010 7:10 am

More updates:

1). 7" Stainless Flue Collar Installed in chimney.

2). Replaced old existing plenum with new plenum with motorized damper for selecting coal stoker furnace heat source or heat pump.

3). Angle shot looking passed new plenum take offs at damper with heat pump cold air return and chimney collar in background.
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Angle shot looking passed new plenum take offs at damper with heat pump cold air return and chimney collar in background.
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McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

It's not all that wonderful

PostBy: GeorgiePorgie On: Mon Oct 18, 2010 8:07 am

When you go along seeing nothing but green lights, and everyone is cheering, you tend to overlook the small mistakes, I said : " it's not all that wonderful " , just to get your attention, but the idea is great !

Somewhere in my posts, ( I don't know how many I had ) , it was a wish list to have a stoker, that you can burn few pieces of wood in it once and a while, and this was a perfect opportunity for that idea, so why the heck " YOU WELDED THE TOP ON " ?

It would have been really nice, to keep or modify the wood burning option, most if not all of us who operate a stoker only, end up with few if not more than few extra wood logs, and we always to get them BTU's out of those as well ( fallen trees, free firewood, broken pallets ETC. ETC. )

Having both system in parallel, shouldn't have been a problem, I have designed computer circuits in the past, parallel was easier, and required less parts, however you have to apply the same theory and I am not sure about the needed parts and their availability as option or standard in this field, it may take me a day or two to visit some local duct work place and get an education as to what available, and reasonably priced.

When you get ready to have it properly controlled, let me know, I have done similar project and I have all the data, as the proper sequence of events.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska, Harman, Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: Stoker

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Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:31 pm

GeorgiePorgie wrote:When you go along seeing nothing but green lights, and everyone is cheering, you tend to overlook the small mistakes, I said : " it's not all that wonderful " , just to get your attention, but the idea is great !

Somewhere in my posts, ( I don't know how many I had ) , it was a wish list to have a stoker, that you can burn few pieces of wood in it once and a while, and this was a perfect opportunity for that idea, so why the heck " YOU WELDED THE TOP ON " ?

It would have been really nice, to keep or modify the wood burning option, most if not all of us who operate a stoker only, end up with few if not more than few extra wood logs, and we always to get them BTU's out of those as well ( fallen trees, free firewood, broken pallets ETC. ETC. )

Having both system in parallel, shouldn't have been a problem, I have designed computer circuits in the past, parallel was easier, and required less parts, however you have to apply the same theory and I am not sure about the needed parts and their availability as option or standard in this field, it may take me a day or two to visit some local duct work place and get an education as to what available, and reasonably priced.

When you get ready to have it properly controlled, let me know, I have done similar project and I have all the data, as the proper sequence of events.


Such unit may be on your "Wish List"...but, this unit was optimized for Coal, and that's "too big of a gap to try and do" Hand Fed Wood and Coal Stoker...one or both fuels combustion would be compromised.
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

IT'S DONE and NOW RUNNING!!!

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Oct 31, 2010 9:47 pm

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Here's last few photo's prior to Start-Up which occurred 10/28/2010.

It's been running for more than 3 days now...my expectations have been surpassed thus far. :D

So far a couple nights in the low 30's but, days have been in or near 50's...we'll see how it goes as winter slips it's grip on us. :!:
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: DOUG On: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:11 pm

That is totally awesome!!! I'll be looking forward to reading it's heating performance and burning efficiency results. I have a feeling that everyone is going to be amazed with the super results you receive! Great job! :idea: :)
DOUG
 
Stove/Furnace Make: CHUBBY, D.S.MACHINE BOILER
Stove/Furnace Model: CLAYTON 1600

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: Short Bus On: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:44 pm

My hat is off to you, that's alot of work and planning, I hope you have great results :D
Short Bus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Kewanee boiler with Anchor stoker
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut / Sub-bituminous C
Other Heating: Propane wall furnace back up only

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:58 pm

Thanks Doug :!:

You've been behind me all the way through this...I sure appreciate that. :)

Thanks for your time and advice while on the phone with me also. :D

BTW:

Will finish up my first batch of coal sometime tomorrow. It was 100# of rice I bought to have for start-up.

It was of poor quality in my opinion. Too much shale...I believe, perhaps it was re-claimed...it has plenty visible small root like twigs throughout and plenty of nonburnable in the ash.
I'll be weighing the ash to get a percentage calculation.

I have 200# from another supplier that I'll be trying next...it looks a lot nicer than that first batch.

So far, with this down-draft design firebox, I am seeing very low stack temps and I do get a decent Gravity Hot Air Flow between blower cycles.

So far, only control wiring I've done is run 2/conductor T'stat wire from Feed Controller to existing relay in H/P for the Emergency Heat...I'm using existing H/P T'stat in Emergency Heat Mode for Coal.

So far, T'stat holds steady on 70*...it works in one half degree increments...no over or under runs of set point...real tests are to come though. ;)

Will I need to make re-adjustments w/ a different quality of coal?
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: Townsend On: Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:35 pm

Great job on the rework and install. Awesome.
Townsend
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Coal Size/Type: Pea / Buck

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: ozman On: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:47 pm

I have been contemplating doing this to my clayton 1600 like Doug did. What is the cost of the conversion using a single tri-burner?
ozman
 
Stove/Furnace Make: USSC
Stove/Furnace Model: Clayton 1600m

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: DOUG On: Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:42 pm

ozman:

I've been working on plans since my intial post of the Clayton stoker conversion for making it better and more efficient. What I have learned is that in the position that I have the stoker in my Clayton is great for ease of lighting and stoker maintance, but the overall heat exchange is really too small for the efficient operation at full fire. Possibly making some more baffles to slow the gases or to add another 20 square feet of heat exchange to the Clayton, I believe would be better for overall effieciency and heat output.

When I get further along with the updated Clayton stoker modification, I will be sure to post it in the appropriate section. Until then, feel free to Private Message me and I will explain my findinsg to help you with your modification so you won't make the same mistakes that I did. If I was to run the set up at a low fire, it is just right for doing so. The coal consuption and stack temperatures goes up with higher rates of firing in my exsisting set up.

The cost of the TRI-BURNER stoker, if you can get one, was around $550.00 at the time of this post. It may have gone up since then.
DOUG
 
Stove/Furnace Make: CHUBBY, D.S.MACHINE BOILER
Stove/Furnace Model: CLAYTON 1600

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: hokirenry On: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:25 pm

Do you have any parts left from the riteway model 37? I'm looking for the combustion flue body. It is the part that holds the sliding door that you open when re-fueling. I'd like to get the door and the housing if possible. Thanks a lot!
hokirenry
 
Stove/Furnace Make: riteway
Stove/Furnace Model: 37

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:33 pm

Sorry, no, it is still a functioning part of the furnace currently.
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: hokirenry On: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:40 pm

Ok, thanks for responding. My old Riteway is still going after 25 years of hard use, but this part recently broke and although I still use it, I would like to fix it properly. Today I looked at a Hitzer 82 which is VERY similar to my Riteway 37. Some of the parts I'm sure would interchange, just can't be sure. Anyway, great job on your retro stoker. Happy New Year.
hokirenry
 
Stove/Furnace Make: riteway
Stove/Furnace Model: 37

Re: Conversion of a Riteway #37 into a Stoker Furnace

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:23 pm

McGiever, that is one nice setup you have there!!! Thats a job well done if I've ever seen one... Great work!!!

Murdoc
MURDOC1
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska/Franco Belge/Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: S.S. 2/ 144.08.02/ Mag Stoker

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