It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: stovepipemike On: Tue Jun 29, 2010 5:21 pm

I thought you may find this of interest.It does not seem possible to me that we could loose the right to free speach so fast.See what you think about it. www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/06/026594.php
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:12 pm

We can expect the speed by which we lose our basic liberties to increase as the November election draws near. Expect an attempt to pass Cap and Tax and the necessary skyrocketing of our energy bill, attacks against the 1st amendment, and increased judicial activism. The 5 to 4 decision in the McDonald vs Chicago ruling is only a piece of what's to come. What happens when Ginsburg retires, she's got two different cancers now? The supreme court is the Alamo what happens when it's gone? Hopefully, once the bums are removed from Congress we'll be able to regain the Liberties we lost but it's doubtful we'll ever be able to go back to square one. We had better pay attention and pray that we aren't too late. If you are not angry, what will get your attention. Really, I'd like to know. Lisa
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: grumpy On: Tue Jun 29, 2010 10:42 pm

Bravo Lisa.
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PostBy: Stephen in Soky On: Wed Jun 30, 2010 12:02 pm

I fear the most dangerous time in our Nations history may be the 60 days between election and swearing in of the new members of Congress. The ones voted out will have nothing to lose, the ones re-elected will have already secured another term. I fail to see anything preventing them from inflicting any nonsense they wish upon our country during this period.
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: beemerboy On: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:25 am

Just a question.

Would you feel the same if the story was:

Four Muslim missionaries arrested for proselytizing and handing out leaflets at a Christian festival.

Also, how long do you think these four Muslims would last in a crowd of Christians before a confrontation would happen?

Just asking.
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: nortcan On: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:27 pm

Hi, I'm in Canada and don't know all your laws, religions... but I think one thing: when someone come in our country, it would be normal to accept the country as it is and not to try to live as if they were in their past country. In privacie it is your choices but in public: the country's laws should be followed by immigrants. I found in the video that you have very weak policemen in USA...8 skilled men to arrest 3 or 4 non armed men... It's not much better here in Canada.
Freedom is not always evident.
Bravo and keep on the watching
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:58 pm

beemerboy wrote:Just a question.

Would you feel the same if the story was:

Four Muslim missionaries arrested for proselytizing and handing out leaflets at a Christian festival.

Also, how long do you think these four Muslims would last in a crowd of Christians before a confrontation would happen?

Just asking.


The Christians would realize that since America is a Country that has religious liberty as one of its founding principals (based on Protestant Christian understanding of the autonomy of the individual before God, and idea that is totally alien and aberrant to Muslims by the way) would probably either ignore the Muslims or discuss the differences between them. The discussion might become heated, but; no Christian would advocate that the Muslims be arrested.
And another thing the Muslims wouldn't probably be handing out tracts. They would be bombing the Infidels.
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:21 pm

I did a google search on this & apparently there has been trouble there in years past between this same group handing out similar things at a booth inside the festival & there has been an on going conflict. It struck me funny that there would be a fourth person there to film like they were told ahead of time not to be there. Seems there is just about always more to this type of thing, not taking sides or anything, I don`t feel like reading all the past history on this very problem between the same group thats handing out the flyers, the police & the Muslims.
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:00 am

samhill wrote:not taking sides or anything
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PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:39 am

Like I said Dan, I like to do a little research before I post. There is page upon page on this that go back to at least last year, I didn`t feel like going any deeper than that. It`s easy to post a little snipit that has the info that you like & ignore anything else. I posted no opinion one way or the other & still have none on this matter.
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:23 pm

samhill wrote: It struck me funny that there would be a fourth person there to film like they were told ahead of time not to be there.


Hmm that seemed like an opinion.

You said in another post that you have muslim friends. Hey good for you. Why don't you ask them if they jumped for joy on 9/11/2001? If they say no, then you will have to wonder if they are lying. If they say yes.....
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PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:03 pm

Dan, this makes me wonder which religion, nationality, race or gender you`ll decide is totally at fault & evil when & if this thing you have for Muslims ever dies out? What part of the 9-11 attack turned you against the whole Muslim religion, do you have a total dislike for every Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, German & every other that ever had taken up arms against our country or does it just last until the next one comes along?
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:20 pm

Gee Sam, I wish I could be the benevolant, loving, perfect human being you are! I can barely see you up there on your moral high ground.
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:44 pm

Nothing at all like that Dan, maybe I came across the wrong way, if so I`m sorry didn`t mean to. Its just like when I mentioned to Smokeycityteacher(I believe it was him) that hatred can become an all consuming thing if you allow it to, I kind of go on the principle that life is too precious & short to worry & hate about the things that we have no control over. If it comes down to a Holy War how would a country made up of all beliefs operate, its much easier to have a war with a country than a belief.
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Re: It Is Starting and We better Pay Attention

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Fri Jul 02, 2010 5:39 pm

samhill wrote: What part of the 9-11 attack turned you against the whole Muslim religion, do you have a total dislike for every Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, German & every other that ever had taken up arms against our country or does it just last until the next one comes along?


Ok, I've been watching and listening but now I'll put in my two cents.

What has the Muslim leadership done to rein in the hatred found in the the Muslim Religion? What are your "friends" doing to stop the hate coming out of the Mosques? What Muslim country has willingly stepped forward to say, enough is enough? Please send me the links to any such articles you have because I can't find any. When is the million Muslim march on Washington to protest the actions of a "few" radical Muslims scheduled? Oh, that's right none of those things have happened. What has happened is that the Muslim Leadership has called for more attacks against Americans. Look at the Times Square bomber, he clearly is one of "good" Muslims, right? The one who at his indictment on attempted murder said, "this is war and I am a solider." Yeh, that one. Please send me the articles from the Muslim leadership on that statement. Don't waste your time, there haven't been any. What about the army major who opened fire on his follow soldiers. Have you seen have any articles from the Muslim leadership decrying that? No, you won't find any such article or quotes because there aren't any, the only thing you'll find is the Muslim leadership vowing to wipe the Great Satan and Israel off the face of the earth. Until this insanity is stopped by the Muslims themselves, I'll watch my back when I'm in the company of Muslims; even those professing to be my friend.

This country is at war and the people we are at war with are Muslim. 3000 Americans died on 9/11 because we failed to recognize that. We are at war with everyone who practices that religion but won't stand up and say that's wrong. You know why they won't say it's wrong? They know they will not be received with open arms. Taking a stand against any aspect of the Muslim religion will get you killed and not in a humane way. When the Muslim religion leadership and everyone who professes to be a Muslim stands up and says this is wrong and actively works to put an end to it then I'll be willing to take another look. When Muslim parents love their children more then they hate Americans then I'll start to listen. When Muslim start to have regret for their heinous actions as have the Japanese and the Germans and any other former enemy of the US have, including Viet Nam, then I'll start to listen.

In the meantime I'll remember we are at war and who we are at war with. Lisa
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