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Post by SMITTY » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 5:08 am

Just watched an episode of Lock 'N Load with R. Lee Ermey on the History Channel a few nights ago. He went head to head with a Henry 1860 against another guy with a Spencer 1860. The demonstration showed how superior the Henry was to the Spencer. A true repeating rifle - the first of it's kind. 8-)

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Post by nortcan » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 1:04 pm

Hi, maybe a curious question, but since I never shooted a 44 or 45 ACP rifle, could you tell me if there is a (I don't know how to say it) knock, hit on the shoulder when you shoot those calibers with a rifle? I already shooted a Colt 45ACP pistol and the feeling was fun, Is it the same with a rifle?
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Post by PC 12-47E » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 1:24 pm

nortcan wrote:Hi, maybe a curious question, but since I never shooted a 44 or 45 ACP rifle, could you tell me if there is a (I don't know how to say it) knock, hit on the shoulder when you shoot those calibers with a rifle? I already shooted a Colt 45ACP pistol and the feeling was fun, Is it the same with a rifle?
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Hi nortcan, The "recoil" from a .44 magnum or .45 Colt+P can be a little hard if the rifle has a steel butt plate. With a quality recoil pad, the recoil will not be a problem.
Also, .45 ACP = automatic colt pistol. This Amunition is NOT THE SAME as .45 Colt.
.45 COLT ammunition is made for revolvers and leveraction rifles. They are not interchangable.
I will try to post a picture of both.

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Post by coal berner » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 1:43 pm

nortcan wrote:Hi, maybe a curious question, but since I never shooted a 44 or 45 ACP rifle, could you tell me if there is a (I don't know how to say it) knock, hit on the shoulder when you shoot those calibers with a rifle? I already shooted a Colt 45ACP pistol and the feeling was fun, Is it the same with a rifle?
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The Rifle shoots the 45 Long colt which is a pistol cartridge The 44-40 was one as well The 45 ACP Auto was made for the 1911 colt Semi Auto pistol later it was chambered for the Thompson Sub machine gun As well as many other model sub machine guns. The 45 long colt is a straight wall rimmed case the 45 acp is a rimless case much shorter case then the 45 L.C. None of these cartridge kick more like a soft push against the shoulder. Remember they started out
as a black powder cartridge's not much kick with black powder more of a push Now the modern smokeless powder loads will have more of a kick then a push . A quick Note on these older /early cartridge's the fist two Number states the
caliber the second two states the amount of black powder used in the case. 44-40- 45-70- 32-20 - 25-20 ect.
The 44Mag is a stretch out 44 special 44-40 black powder cartridge 44 Mag using smokeless Powder much more kick & powerful then 44-40 or 44 special.
Any of these cartridges are not bad to shoot in a Rifle The 44 mag in a short barrel pistol is a different story .
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Post by nortcan » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 1:51 pm

Hi PC12. Thanks for the infos and for the new world for me ''recoil''. You know, if I wewr the King of the world, there would be only one language for the planet: English. All relationships would be easier for human beeings, travelling, tradings...and for me...
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Post by PC 12-47E » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 1:56 pm

.45 Colt is made for Revolvers and Leveraction rifles.

.45 ACP is made for semiautomatic pistols and carbines.

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.45 ACP/ .45 Automatic

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Post by nortcan » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 2:14 pm

CP12, your rifle looks really nice and it also looks very solid made. I did look at the refference you sent and I like the great choice of lever action rifles. The St-St models are very clean looking seem so strong. Do you know what kind of wood they use? The prices surprised me, not so expensive. Before I bought my last Henry Golden Boy, I saw an advertisement for a Norinco L.A. rifle, on the photos it looks nice but I was scare of a China product so I kept on Henry. You may not like my question but it is only because I don't know Norinco and your's: what is the differences between those 2 imported products?
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Post by PC 12-47E » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 2:40 pm

nortcan wrote: Do you know what kind of wood they use? The prices surprised me, not so expensive. Before I bought my last Henry Golden Boy, I saw an advertisement for a Norinco L.A. rifle, on the photos it looks nice but I was scare of a China product so I kept on Henry. You may not like my question but it is only because I don't know Norinco and your's: what is the differences between those 2 imported products?
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nortcan, The wood on the Rossi is a Brazillian Hard Wood that is stained to look like walnut. The fit and finish on the wood stock is good. The wholesale price on my rifle was $380. US..... :D

I do not like the quality of the Norinco firearms. I like the Rossi leveraction and( Marlin made before 2005).
After Marlin was sold to Cerebus/Remington in 2006 the overall quality has gone down hill.

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Post by coal berner » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 3:12 pm

PC 12-47E wrote:
nortcan wrote: Do you know what kind of wood they use? The prices surprised me, not so expensive. Before I bought my last Henry Golden Boy, I saw an advertisement for a Norinco L.A. rifle, on the photos it looks nice but I was scare of a China product so I kept on Henry. You may not like my question but it is only because I don't know Norinco and your's: what is the differences between those 2 imported products?
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nortcan, The wood on the Rossi is a Brazillian Hard Wood that is stained to look like walnut. The fit and finish on the wood stock is good. The wholesale price on my rifle was $380. US..... :D

I do not like the quality of the Norinco firearms. I like the Rossi leveraction and( Marlin made before 2005).
After Marlin was sold to Cerebus/Remington in 2006 the overall quality has gone down hill.

Eddie
Rem took over the money backing of Marlin in 2007 The Marlin Firearms are still being made in the same factory and by the same people as before . Just like the Rossi when Taurus took over in 05 or 06

 
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Post by PC 12-47E » Sat. Jul. 10, 2010 3:38 pm

The Marlin factory may be in the same place but the Quality Has Gone Down!! They also have hired new employees at a much lower wage. I have sold the two of my Marlin rifles that were new 2009 & 2007. Both rifles never should have passed the Quality checks. The trigger pull on one rifle was over 15 pounds and had a bent front sight. The rifle was in an unopened box from Jerry's Sport center. After firing the rifle three times the center barrel band screw broke in half. This was a .357 Mag 1894.
The other Rifle was New in the box also, chambered in .45 Colt, and both dovetail magazine tube hangers were BULGING into the barrel. I sent the rifle back to Marlin and they put a new barrel on for me but the new barrel also had bulging dovetail............. :mad: :mad: . I traded that rifle with the factory letter of the barrel work that Marlin had done.

Edit: I have posted this on Malin Owners Forum back in Sept. of 2009. Lots of Members are unhappy with Marlins New Quality. :shock:

 
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Post by freetown fred » Sun. Jul. 11, 2010 8:29 am

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Post by nortcan » Sun. Jul. 11, 2010 5:08 pm

Hi freetown fred.the rifles we see here are very nice. How is your wife, I read on a post that she was supposed to have a surgery hope shee's OK.
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Post by nortcan » Sun. Jul. 11, 2010 5:16 pm

Hi PC12, thanks for the cartridges comparaison.Videos are fun to watch. The recoil on the first video seems good. With top ejection, is it possible to receive the empty cartridges in our's face more often than on side ejection?
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