[quote="jeromemsn"]Now lets get real. There are no states and I mean no states that would be solvent without the Federal government propping up and subsidizing them. A state that would pull out of being in the United States would not have the credit rating nor the funds to deal with unemployment, welfare, roads/highways and a multitude of other services that are funded by the Fed. Rendell, the currant Gov. of Pa. wants to make I80 a toll road to send the funds to Pittsburgh and Philly to help there mass transit. The next Governor will do the same as has the previous Gov. There is no city, town, county, township that does not rely on the funds given to them from the Fed. and to stop receiving money from the Fed. the cities, towns, county's, and townships would all have to raise taxes to a point that everyone would move to another state leaving the receding state to be taken over by another state or country.[quote]
Yeah, let’s get real, how solvent do you think the states would become if able to keep almost all of the money they raise through taxes. Think about it, why is the Federal government telling VA that they need a secondary new road. The people who live in the area should be telling the state government that based on local business trends and they should be paying for it. The only exception would be interstates that have a national defense mission. Why is the Federal Government involved in how individual states treat their citizens. If you don’t like how you’re treated, move to another state. That’s how it was in years gone past. I know a lot of people who left states because the schools weren’t good. That doesn’t happen anymore because of the federal government. I know elder folks who move to no income states after retirement. That’s the same concept.
[quote="jeromemsn"]And if thats not enough.............How much do you think it would cost a state to rent or even lease the military for a year or so if there was any kind of problem. [quote]
Gee, who do you think pays for the State National Guard unless it is nationalized by the Federal Government. That comes out of your state's budget and it would continue to function very well, thank you very much. The state also owns all of the equipment unless it’s nationalized. What kind of problem do you think there would be anyway? The governor is the commander of the State National Guard and they would deploy at his discretion just as they do now.
[quote="jeromemsn"]What about a catastrophe in the succeeded state, flood, earth quake, tornado, even the flu. [quote]
Gee, how did we ever get along without the federal government?
Interestingly enough, I’m reading a book which answers that exact question. The book, “7 Events That Made America, America” Chapter 3, “Johnstown fights a flood.” I think every American should read this book, it will really open your eyes. Anyway, it seems up to about 1910 the American people did just fine responding to natural catastrophes which occurred in the United States. They included the Johnstown Flood, the Galveston Hurricane of 1902 and the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. Surprisingly enough ordinary citizens and churches rushed appropriate aid to the survivors and lots of it; all without government intervention. Rescue efforts stalled or got mucked up with the government got involved. Look at the mess of things the Federal Government made in New Orleans. Wait, they had the same storm in Mississippi and yet no huge mess - why the difference. Oh, yeah, the Mississippi State Government was on the job and had it covered before the Federal Government even showed up. That’s how it’s supposed to work.
[quote="jeromemsn"]Come on get a grip and realize that making a wave isn't a problem solver it's just a wave to confuse people of whats really going on.[quote]
So tell me - “what’s really going on” Could it be that our federal government has lost it’s sense of honor and is “trying to fundamentally change the United States.” Could it be that 85% of the citizens rejected the Obamacare bill and the “powers that be” shoved it down our throat anyway? Could it be that 75% of the people in AZ support the new Immigration bill only to be sued by the federal government over their actually enforcing Federal Law? Could it be that this Administration has run up a debt which no one alive today has any hopes of paying back and the Federal government continues to spend more money? Oh, there is so much more but tell me which one do you think ticks us off the most. Or is it a little bit of everything. Or maybe we’re just to stupid to know what’s really going on.
No hypothesis on my part, just a clear reading of the events of the day.
Thanks for your advice but I think I have a grip on the situation in this country, if anyone is making waves it sure isn’t me but I for one will not wait until that wave knocks me off my feet. This country was built on Federalism - strong state governments working closely with the people impacted by the decisions and a small, weak central government doing only those things that required unity of effort. Check out your copy of the Constitution, it’s pretty clear what the federal government can and cannot do. Don’t have a copy of the Constitution, go to Heritage.com and they will send you one. Have a good night. lisa