lowfog01 wrote:Hi, I hope this helps but remember, these are my thoughts and not those of Beck.
Thanks for the time and effort.
I agree, he certainly is wanting people of faith to be able to see beyond their inter-faith differences and work together for... something. I thought I knew what that something was a year ago, but now I'm not so sure what the political goals are of this effort, and there *must* be political goals or else its just a bunch of people being friendly to each other. That's certainly a nice enough thing to strive for, but hardly useful as an end goal in the political realm.
He isn't calling on anyone to join a specific faith, but he is imploring everyone to return to a faith. And the implication increasingly is that if you do not have a faith in God then your honor can't be restored and you will only have a partial ability to help in restoration of the nation's honor.
Back when he started the 9/12 project, he explicitly stated that one need not believe in God to be a part of the effort. But I haven't heard him say that in many moons now. He has instead ratched up the "god" talk more and more and so interwoven religious faith and principles into his presentation that I'm no longer sure he believes one can be a part of this restoration without a faith.
And don't get me wrong here. I'm not drawing my political motivations and efforts from the direction of Glenn Beck. I'm speaking as if he's a leader because I think he has crossed the boundary from circus clown radio jock to political leader in a way Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh never have or have attempted to.
The rally may have been changed from a political one to a religious/personal one, but that is not the end game here. Beck is far too invested in the anti-progressivism fight to have it be simply about being nice to each other and being honorable people. Those are foundational goals, not the end game. What is Beck going to do to convert all this into political action. And if one is not a person of faith, can they be of honor and help restore that national political honor?
It only changes something if the people elected are of honor. The voters are and have been honorable. They, being US citizens, are generally hugely charitable and already put others ahead of themselves. What has been missing is libertarian spirit in the policy making in government and honorable men and women in congress representing us in sufficient numbers to be effective.
I found many parts of the event on 8/28 to be emotionally touching and inspiring. I watched it on ustream almost in its entirety. But I was definitely left wondering what Beck is trying to do at this point. The degree of his shift into the religious realm after starting all of this on a strong anti-progressivism motivation is leaving me scratching my head. Maybe that's because of my own bias against religious motivations. But back 2 years ago Beck would throw some religion into the mix and it didn't bother me in the slightest. I loved to learn of the historical aspects of religion in the founders and the founding as provided by Barton et. al. It really is the degree to which it has become part of his show and "pitch" that is making me wonder what's up.
Again, thanks for the response, Lisa.
P.S. To rberq... it's offensive statements like that that give atheists and agnostics a bad rap with the faithful. Mental defect? Needing something to believe in is a not a defect. Needing something to focus on and ground a person, particularly a troubled person is not a defect. However, not understanding that is perhaps a defect.