Splendid Oak Stove
- david78
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Hello, all. I'm new to the forum and potentially a new coal user. I've burned wood for years but am considering a coal stove for a new addition I'm building. Anyone familiar with a Splendid Oak parlor stove? It looks similar to the Glenwood stoves I've seen on the forum here, which sound really interesting. Someone near me has one for sale for $250; supposed to be in working condition. Sorry, I don't have any pictures at the moment. Just wondered if it was worth taking a look at. Another person nearby has a Harman Mark III in good shape for $500. Any opinions on either stove? Thanks!
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Either one is a good price...
Depends on the condition...
The splendid oak is priced about 10% of restored value...
http://www.barnstablestove.com/html/parlor.htm
Link to a picture
http://www.barnstablestove.com/images/stoveimages ... C00199.jpg
Parlor stoves are usually smaller than a whole house heater...
Now the Glenwood #8 or #6 will heat a large space...
http://www.barnstablestove.com/html/baseburners.htm
Basic Mark lll lists for $2500...
Depends on the condition...
The splendid oak is priced about 10% of restored value...
About halfway down the page•Splendid Oak
•Parlor Stoves 1880-1920
•This antique stove - $2250
Built in Troy, New York in 1890, the features mica windows, top or rear vent and burn either coal or wood.
This stove is sold but we have another in stock.
Dimensions: 22" Wide, 22" Deep and 56" High
http://www.barnstablestove.com/html/parlor.htm
Link to a picture
http://www.barnstablestove.com/images/stoveimages ... C00199.jpg
Parlor stoves are usually smaller than a whole house heater...
Now the Glenwood #8 or #6 will heat a large space...
http://www.barnstablestove.com/html/baseburners.htm
Basic Mark lll lists for $2500...
- wsherrick
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I will say this just as plain as I can. If it is in half way decent condition SNAP UP THAT SPLENDID OAK AS FAST AS YOU CAN!!!!
Why do you ask? Because some collector will grab it if they see it. It is worth every dime and ounce of effort to restore it or have a professional restore it.
Once restored it will be an efficient, economical not to mention beautiful addition to your home. Plus it has dual fuel capability.
Now the Splendid Oak is not a Baseburner, it is still a really good stove and for that price plus restoration you can't beat it.
Why do you ask? Because some collector will grab it if they see it. It is worth every dime and ounce of effort to restore it or have a professional restore it.
Once restored it will be an efficient, economical not to mention beautiful addition to your home. Plus it has dual fuel capability.
Now the Splendid Oak is not a Baseburner, it is still a really good stove and for that price plus restoration you can't beat it.
- wsherrick
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Please let us know if you buy the Splendid Oak or find something simiiar. We love pictures by the way.
- lowfog01
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Welcome to the forum. I burn a Mark II and while it isn't as beautiful as a Glenwood Base burner any Harman will get the job done and do it with little complications. These appliances are heat monsters and the learning curve on how to fire them is not huge. $500 for a Mark III is a great price but ask how old it is and how was it used, i.e. as a supplemental heater or was it the primary heater for the whole house. Does it show signs of over firing? Are the grates warped; do they move freely? Does the firebox look all beat up? You should plan on replacing all the gaskets. There isn't much you can do to hurt a Harman but over firing is not a good thing.david78 wrote:Hello, all. I'm new to the forum and potentially a new coal user. I've burned wood for years but am considering a coal stove for a new addition I'm building. Anyone familiar with a Splendid Oak parlor stove? It looks similar to the Glenwood stoves I've seen on the forum here, which sound really interesting. Someone near me has one for sale for $250; supposed to be in working condition. Sorry, I don't have any pictures at the moment. Just wondered if it was worth taking a look at. Another person nearby has a Harman Mark III in good shape for $500. Any opinions on either stove? Thanks!
I think it all comes down to personal choice and that's driven by how much effort you want to put into getting the stove operational; either one of these will do the job but which would you rather have in your room, Rachel Welsh or Miss Jane. Good luck, Lisa
- wsherrick
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Great! I can't wait to see them. Do me a favor and measure the firepot inside. How wide and how deep it is. Then we can get an idea how much coal it holds and the amount of heat you can expect from it.
- david78
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I got the stove home this evening. It's bigger than I thought and in better shape than I had hoped. It obviously needs some cosmetic work, but the only thing broken is the lower skirt; it's cracked in one place. The mica in the windows needs replaced. The grates are solid, no holes anywhere. I don't see any reason why I couldn't fire it up right now, but I'm planning to redo it all; paint, polish, etc. Once I get the paint off the nickel parts I'll see what the plating looks like. Any tips, warnings, brilliant insights, about doing a restoration will be appreciated. BTW, the firepot is 13" from grate to bottom of door and 16" diameter.
Here's the kicker in this whole deal. The owner wanted $250 for the stove, which seemed like a good deal. Yesterday I got an email from her that if I came and got it today she would take $150 for it. The husband just wanted it gone. So my number 2 son and I hustled down there. 4 1/2 hour drive, but a good excuse for a road trip, and worth it, I think. The owner said it was her grandparent's stove, who lived in Troy, NY. She could remember going to visit and coming in from playing outside and standing by the stove to warm up. She was glad to see it go to someone who would take care of it and use it.
Sorry for the novel. Just excited about the stove. Hope I did the picture right.
Here's the kicker in this whole deal. The owner wanted $250 for the stove, which seemed like a good deal. Yesterday I got an email from her that if I came and got it today she would take $150 for it. The husband just wanted it gone. So my number 2 son and I hustled down there. 4 1/2 hour drive, but a good excuse for a road trip, and worth it, I think. The owner said it was her grandparent's stove, who lived in Troy, NY. She could remember going to visit and coming in from playing outside and standing by the stove to warm up. She was glad to see it go to someone who would take care of it and use it.
Sorry for the novel. Just excited about the stove. Hope I did the picture right.
- wsherrick
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Congratulations!!! You just probably got the best deal possible. They almost gave the stove to you. I'm really happy for you and you now have what will be an excellent heater. You can have the cracked skirt welded and then re nickeled. The draft bells on the ash pit door should be re nickeled and the loading door with the mica should be re nickeled also. The main thing you must do is to make sure that ALL the seams in the stove are airtight. This means normally that you have to take everything apart, replace all the old rusted bolts, clean out the old furnace cement and carefully put it all back together with new cement. It's not really hard, just tedious and dirty. It really doesn't take that long. Check the Russian steel barrel for corrosion and if it has rusted thin anywhere. It is easy to have a new barrel made.
The firepot on your stove is very large. You can put up to 70 pounds of coal in it and that stove will easily produce in excess of 50,000-70,000 BTU's per hour under normal use.
Get some castable refractory cement and make a lining for your firepot. That will protect it from burning out and cracking. It's easy to do. make a cardboard mold about 1" or so smaller than the firepot, fit it in there and pour the lining in. Let it sit like that until you make your first small fire in it. The cardboard burns away and you also cure the liner at the same time. Be gentle with the cast iron parts. If you need a new firepot, you can have one cast.
Please show us more detailed pictures of the grates, back and everything else. Don't worry about writing us a novel. Your experiences and others who are showing us their projects will always be here to help as guides and inspiration to instruct anybody who has a similar project in the future. We are are all in this together and there is a lot of friendly expert help around here. If I am not mistaken, Splendid Oak's were made by Fuller & Warren Co. One of the best stove makers of all time, right up there with Weir, who made Glenwoods.
Again, you did good. Glad you skipped the Harmon. You'll be a lot more proud of this stove.
The firepot on your stove is very large. You can put up to 70 pounds of coal in it and that stove will easily produce in excess of 50,000-70,000 BTU's per hour under normal use.
Get some castable refractory cement and make a lining for your firepot. That will protect it from burning out and cracking. It's easy to do. make a cardboard mold about 1" or so smaller than the firepot, fit it in there and pour the lining in. Let it sit like that until you make your first small fire in it. The cardboard burns away and you also cure the liner at the same time. Be gentle with the cast iron parts. If you need a new firepot, you can have one cast.
Please show us more detailed pictures of the grates, back and everything else. Don't worry about writing us a novel. Your experiences and others who are showing us their projects will always be here to help as guides and inspiration to instruct anybody who has a similar project in the future. We are are all in this together and there is a lot of friendly expert help around here. If I am not mistaken, Splendid Oak's were made by Fuller & Warren Co. One of the best stove makers of all time, right up there with Weir, who made Glenwoods.
Again, you did good. Glad you skipped the Harmon. You'll be a lot more proud of this stove.
- david78
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Thanks for your reply! Great information. The stove does say Fuller & Warren on it. Where can I get parts re-nickeled? I'll take some more pics tomorrow.
- 2001Sierra
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You are killing me I work in Troy NY and missed out on your oustanding find. Best of luck to you no matter which way you go with it. Many great stoves where cast in Troy.
- wsherrick
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Yep, I saw it for sale on the web. It was well worth the drive. From your pictures it looks like the doors fit very well. I forgot to tell you the door handles need to be re nickeled too. You don't need gasket rope to seal these doors. They are designed to fit tight. The pawls or the piece of metal that holds the doors closed against the frame are designed to be a wear part and if the doors have a little play in them you can replace them. Another thing are the hinge pins on the doors. If they are worn, these also need replacement. That is where a lot of people make the mistake of assuming that old stoves are not designed to fit tight. They just expect the doors to be wobbly. Your stove is designed to be air tight and if those wear points are good then all is well. If they are not then they are easily fixed.
Nothing at all to be sorry about. As we all say, we love to see pics. Especially pics of these older stoves being saved from the scrap heap. But it makes it all that much better to have a little history of the stoves past.david78 wrote:Sorry for the novel. Just excited about the stove.
- lowfog01
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Wow! I'm jealous. What a great find! I'm really glad that this stove was "rescued." Don't worry about writing novels; anything you post will add to our "body of knowledge." Enjoy your project. Lisa