8% of all babies born is US are born to illegal aliens

Re: 8% of all babies born is US are born to illegal aliens

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:15 am

rberq wrote:On almost any issue, there is a large middle ground that both conservatives and liberals can agree upon. Why don't they legislate the middle ground and skip the extremes?


True enough, but when major problems such as immigration and the economy are allowed to fester for many decades the middle ground shrinks to almost nothing. Limp along for another few years versus major upheaval with major upheaval inevitable.

I think there is a message when the wealthiest most forward looking states are those in the most trouble.
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Re: 8% of all babies born is US are born to illegal aliens

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:21 am

samhill wrote:Just a question there Mike, why is it that even when this current immagration problem has been going on for decades & both sides have had ample oppertunities to address it but neither has except just enough to quiet some rather than fix, you see it as only a liberal problem? Not to go against what you say or anything but it seems that no matter what the subject you at times make some sense until you get to the nasty left not understanding the scheme of things & completely over look that the right has done the same.



As I stated earlier, samhill, immigration isn't the problem. The failure of the government to reduce the rapid rate of illegal immigration in order to orderly assimilate immigrants is the problem. This, among other policies, leads to a multicultural phenomenon in society which is something only the liberal left favors because of sentiment. In practice it is untenable over the long run for any nation. It is tantamount to an invasion and destabilizes the security of the nation.

You have confused the issues. I was clear in my initial post in this thread. Please read it.

As for the leftists who are adroitly influencing all democrats, they have made most democrats unreasonable nasty bastards who march furiously toward Marxism even if it has to be upheld by coercion. Leftists have systematically infiltrated the major institutions of this nation using class and racial tension as their tool of influence. Yet, their ideological goal remains the antithesis of our constitutional liberty. Thus, as a patriot, I have zero tolerance for leftists or democrats influenced by them.

As for extreme right wingers, I have no use for them either but their presence is not currently infiltrating the rank and file republicans or conservatives. Republicans, moderates and conservatives have rejected neo-cons and even more extreme right wingers as evidenced by movements like the tea party-ers.

Further, I have considerable disdain for commercial corporatists who play both political sides against the middle. Both parties have engendered these greedy power mongers at the extreme expense of independents, i.e. economic minorities who also deserve the equal protection of the law.
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Re: 8% of all babies born is US are born to illegal aliens

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:24 am

rberq wrote:On almost any issue, there is a large middle ground that both conservatives and liberals can agree upon. Why don't they legislate the middle ground and skip the extremes?


Because they have constituents who put them in office who disagree with your premise. :)
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Re: 8% of all babies born is US are born to illegal aliens

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:18 am

Mike, you have once again made yourself perfectly clear. Good day to you.
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