EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:27 pm

That's the way it should be. ;) I have a class A, which allows me to carry large capacity (over 10 rounds) and carry concealed. Class B is restricted to under 10 rounds, & you must secure (locked/ separated from ammo) any firearms for transport. Plus there can be additional restrictions added by the state. Any violations result in immediate revocation of your license for life, & mandatory year in jail. In MA, chiefs of police & judges are appointed, not elected -- much of the reason for the political stranglehold on this place. :roll:
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:46 am

Richard S. wrote:
SMITTY wrote:MA leaves gun licensing up to individual towns .... I.E.: basically, your local police department gives the yea or nay on your getting a firearms license ...



The only thing you need a license for here is a concealed weapon permit, for that you need to get the Sheriff to sign off on it. I don't recall anyone I know ever having any trouble obtaining one. The sheriff is elected and gun ownership is heavy in this area. No permits... no job. :D

Prior to 1989 in Pa The Sheriff or Chief of Police or whoever was the highest Authority in the Area you lived in had The
Authority to issue a License to carry It was a Municipality Law That gave the Sheriff or Chief Authority officer the power to say Yea or Na on the issuing of a license .

In 1989 It became a State law meaning if you are not a felon. They must issue one They can not deny you a license.
That includes Phial & Pittsburg . It is agaist the state law they can be sued .
If you are denied they must send a certified letter with in 45 days telling the reason why
you were denied Then you get a lawyer and go after them .

Prior to 1998 before the Brady bill went into effect The Sheriff was the one that did the background check and issued the license right there . Now they must send your Application to the PA State Police to do the background check and you Wait for the State to send the APP. back to the Sheriff then they call you to come up and get your Picture taken
and issue the License. You can also get one without your Picture on it It's cheaper . but you must have another form of ID with a Picture of you on it

They are two license to choice from a Sportsman for hunting with a Pistol only firearm can not be loaded in a Vehicle & there is a Sporting & Protection license which allows you to carry a loaded Firearm in a vehicle and on Person anywhere in the state of PA. Good for 5 Years

Except for Schools and Federal Buildings That also includes any banks that is protected by the F.D.I.C
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:42 am

coal berner wrote:They are two license to choice from a Sportsman for hunting with a Pistol only firearm can not be loaded in a Vehicle & there is a Sporting & Protection license which allows you to carry a loaded Firearm in a vehicle and on Person anywhere in the state of PA. Good for 5 Years


coal berner, is the Sportsman version available to an out of state hunting linence holder?
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Sep 01, 2010 7:13 am

SMITTY wrote:That's the way it should be. ;)


I don't think you should need anything to carry a concealed weapon, only bans on weapons should be on those with prior violent convictions.
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Sep 01, 2010 3:46 pm

VigIIPeaBurner wrote:
coal berner wrote:They are two license to choice from a Sportsman for hunting with a Pistol only firearm can not be loaded in a Vehicle & there is a Sporting & Protection license which allows you to carry a loaded Firearm in a vehicle and on Person anywhere in the state of PA. Good for 5 Years


coal berner, is the Sportsman version available to an out of state hunting license holder?

There are now 25 other States that honer a PA license to carry which PA recognize 25 of them aswell .

States that Honor Pennsylvania's CCW Permit:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado*, Florida*, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan*, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah*, Vermont*, Virginia, West Virginia, Wyoming

State CCW Permits that Pennsylvania Honors:
Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wyoming,
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: pvolcko On: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:20 pm

Gotta love the pistol laws in this country. What a mess. I'm a NY State resident. I have a permit with a sportsman's restriction, meaning no concealed carry and only can use hiking/camping, hunting, at a range, or at my residence. Each county has its own issuing authority, and depending on the county that is either the sheriff or a county supreme court judge. Each authority is supposed to abide by a single state rule set for granting/denying a permit application, but in practice it can vary widely from county to county. In my county, Onondaga, unless you get one of the three possible issuing judges you can basically only get a sportsman's permit, one judge is much more in tune with 2nd amendment rights and personal liberty and will issue CCWs without much trouble. In either case, NYState law requires an applicant for a CCW to provide an affirmative reason for seeking the CCW, and they specifically say that personal protection and 2nd amendment right is not a valid reason. Basically you need to have an unusual circumstance in your life that justifies you being granted the CCW permit. However, in a number of surrounding counties the issuing authorities grant CCWs in a shall issue manner and don't even bother asking for justification (or if they do, they do not care what the reason is so long as you have no marks against your record and your character references check out).

Yet, I also have an out of state permit for Utah concealed carry, which affords me CCW rights in a large number of other states, including PA.

So, while I'm in NY state my pistol has to be in a locked case in the truck separate from any ammunition. Once I cross the border into PA or a couple other bordering states, I can go full CCW.

I can get my Florida out of state resident CCW permit too by simply taking a quick pistol proficiency test (shoot a few rounds and hit the target), which would get me a few more states I could CCW in.

Frikin nuts.

Rat finks in Albany need to make this a shall issue state across the board and end the madness.
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:29 pm

It should be that if you can get the permit in your home state it would be good for every state just like your drivers license.
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:18 am

samhill wrote:It should be that if you can get the permit in your home state it would be good for every state just like your drivers license.

Yes agreed That would be a Federal carry license But the States have there own state constitution laws which they have the right to in force . Well at lest they did Just look at the mess that is going on in Arizona The Government Suing a State that has the right to in force there own state law under there own state Constitution aswell as the Federal Constitution Makes you wonder where this Current Government is taking all of us :roll: .
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: Freddy On: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:13 pm

While we're talking weapons.... how long are bullets good for? Like, if I buy a box of 22 longs, would they still work in 5 yrs? 10, 50? 100?
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: coal berner On: Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:24 pm

Freddy wrote:While we're talking weapons.... how long are bullets good for? Like, if I buy a box of 22 longs, would they still work in 5 yrs? 10, 50? 100?

as long the where stored in a cool dried place they will last a life time and then some .
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:49 am

I've seen paper shot shells from the 50's go off just like the modern ones. ;)

Moisture is bad, just as Democrats are bad ... spearheaded by none other than john kerry (a name not worthy of the shift key ...), after they all gave the Mexican prez a standing O for insulting & disrespecting our country on the very floor from which it's laws are made, they're trying to ram another bill through that will basically introduce a U.N. gun ban to the USA. One of the brainstorms of the U.N. is ammo that degrades over time. They want all ammo to have an expiration date! How's that for a brainstorm! :roll:

Thankfully, this bill has as much a chance of passing as j.k. has of getting re-elected -- even in this liberal bastion. :lol:
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:13 pm

I have recently been shooting some .45 230 gr. lead ball ammo with military dates stamped '44 through '47. It has been more accurate in my pistol than new 230gr. UMC hardball. But then again, it could be the wobbly shooter after his fifty year old muscles fatigue and flinch after forty or fifty rounds. :roll:
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Re: EPA Considering Lead Bullet Ban

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:47 am

I'll be making my own .45 rounds soon. But in order to get the needed supplies, I have to have them shipped to my relative's place up in VT ... because it's illegal to ship brass, bullets, or powder to MA unless you have an FFL. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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