Fuller and Warren Stove

Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: gwestvt On: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:51 pm

I am trying to sell a Fuller and Warren Stove for my father and have no idea what to ask. It is in good condition and is a Champion Oak model and has a decorative top that swivels revealing a cook surface. I hve a friend who is interested. I believe it was designed for coal but thought I could change the grate in the bottom to make it convert for a wood stove.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Fuller and Warren Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Champion Oak

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:18 pm

This is certainly a coal stove. It is a very late model base burner from around 1917-1920. I don't know what it would be worth since it seems to be missing all of its trim pieces. It is missing the nickel skirt, nickel footrests, side wings and the nickle ring that goes around the top of the stove. It would be worth a lot more to someone if it had all of those pieces intact.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: gwestvt On: Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:44 am

Is $150.00 fair?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Fuller and Warren Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Champion Oak

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Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Sep 11, 2010 3:01 am

I guess that's fair. But don't sell it on premise that those trim pieces are easy to find. Mostly if they are gone it is almost impossible to find them outside of buying another identical stove model that has them so you can use the trim pieces from one stove as patterns to cast replacement pieces for the other one.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: coal berner On: Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:40 am

gwestvt wrote:I am trying to sell a Fuller and Warren Stove for my father and have no idea what to ask. It is in good condition and is a Champion Oak model and has a decorative top that swivels revealing a cook surface. I hve a friend who is interested. I believe it was designed for coal but thought I could change the grate in the bottom to make it convert for a wood stove.

What brand stove is sitting next to it on left side first pic
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: gwestvt On: Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:19 am

Very old and reliable Round Oak! She is well worn and has supplied years and years of heat during our cold Vermont winters.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Fuller and Warren Co.
Stove/Furnace Model: Champion Oak

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: coal berner On: Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:23 pm

gwestvt wrote:Very old and reliable Round Oak! She is well worn and has supplied years and years of heat during our cold Vermont winters.

yep good stoves thanks for posting
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: NYfireman On: Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:45 pm

Hello,
I'm wondering if you ever sold your Fuller and Warren stove? I am just across Lake Champlain from you and I have a Fuller and Warren Champion Oak 116 that is exactly like yours except that it is not a base-burner. I wish it were! On my stove, I don't believe there are any holes or attachments for footrests or "side skirts," so William might be wrong about that, (he seems to be right on just about everything I've read--after all he started NEPA Crossroads!) Every old stove I've had that has had a foot rail has had holes for the ends of the rail to hook into. William also seems to be wrong about the "nickel skirt," which I take to be the lower skirt ring --yours is there but it has lost its nickel chrome and it is not so easily seen because of that and because it is a simple, unornamented ring. The top ring does, however, appear to be missing from the photo.
As William says in his video, it is a waste to use a base burner to burn wood. I would be happy to trade any one of the three woodburning stoves I have, two of which are nice antiques, for this stove if the grates haven't been taken out--or, I should say, if they haven't been thrown away and the stove modified in such a way that they can't be reinstalled. The base burner chamber and damper should be intact and functional, also. If you still have the stove, I'd certainly be interested in buying it.
I hope to hear back from you and, if your friend isn't interested in trading, I hope the info is helpful. William is certainly right about the parts being hard to find, but the stove is functional as is, it seems.
All the best,
Erik Kilgren
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Stoker Coal Boiler: none
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: American Standard Severn
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac 720
Baseburners & Antiques: Fuller &Warren Matchless 14, Our Glenwood 111, Royal Sterling 30 base heater
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chestnut, Pea

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Fri Sep 16, 2011 1:20 am

Thank you for all the kind words, but; I didn't start NEPA crossroads. The credit for that goes to Richard, "the Mayor." This web site is his baby. I just came along about 3 years ago. There wasn't much information here about old stoves. I have learned a lot, however; I still have a lot more to learn. Now we have a lot of people here besides me that love them and use them. Regardless of the type of appliance any person uses here, be it old or new. We all share a passion for burning coal and we get along for the most part. I hope you will also like to be a part of the Forum. The more the merrier.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: Body Hammer On: Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:26 pm

I know nothing about these old stoves. But when I enlarge the top pic, I can clearly see mounting tabs on that cast ring, and holes in the base. All appear to be for mounting the trim pieces mentioned earlier.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:23 pm

My Fuller & Warren Base Burner has lots of nickel trim and foot rails. With Williams help this Base Burner will be heating our old farm house. This Fuller & Warren BB is a model #14 Art Stewart.
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Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: Body Hammer On: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:12 am

I would love to see one in full operating mode. Do they put out more heat than a modern type stove? (hitzer,harmon,etc) Are they as efficient? I really like the old style look. Seems to be a lot more parts and maintainence involved with one though. I guess that's where the true love of coal burning comes in.
Speaking of heat; I was tempted this morning.(38 here at 6:00). But I'm going to go for the ONE MATCH club this season. So it's too early. I'd end up with my windows open all through Oct.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Sep 17, 2011 8:30 am

Yep I would say they are more efficient since they use a longer flame path that heats more surface. Also, to me the round shape is more efficient to disbursing heat.

I hear ya about the temped to light up. High 30's this morning in Machiasport too. But the suns out and it's lookin like a might purty day for a coastal hike.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: Body Hammer On: Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:04 am

It certainly is here! My favorite time of year. If anyone is interested; look near the vacinity of the moon tonight. That very bright star near it, is actually Jupiter. You can even make out three of her moons with just 7x binoculars! Pretty cool! Early morning(4:00-5:00) is best time.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman TLC 2000

Re: Fuller and Warren Stove

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sat Sep 17, 2011 11:33 am

Body Hammer wrote:It certainly is here! My favorite time of year. If anyone is interested; look near the vacinity of the moon tonight. That very bright star near it, is actually Jupiter. You can even make out three of her moons with just 7x binoculars! Pretty cool! Early morning(4:00-5:00) is best time.


Nice! I'll check that out. There was a supernova a few days ago that was showing also. Weird that exploded about a 1000 light years ago and we are just seeing it now!
SteveZee
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Modern Oak 116 & Glenwood 208 C Range

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