Base burner stoves

How thick could it(refactory lining) have been since the holes are very close to the edge of the bottom. Was this added to protect the firepot only or to do that and put more heat into the coal?

One exemple of what was offered for a few $ more = $1.65
Liners protect the fire pot and help to keep the heat inside of the fire pot to get the best and complete coal burning. 1/2" to 1" is good.
Just clic 2x for a better look

It is kind of sad that the development of coal stoves seems to have gone backwards while everything else has gone forward. i wonder why new stove companies do not copy the old proven designs. There certainly can not be any patents still in force if there ever were any to begin with. Why build a larger surface area rectangular fire box when round and deep the proven design or why noy preheat the combustion airwhen a proven design? it does not make a bunch of sense in the end. Is it just people buying new stoves just do not know the difference or just trying to convert a woodstove into a coal stove?

ddahlgren wrote:It is kind of sad that the development of coal stoves seems to have gone backwards while everything else has gone forward. i wonder why new stove companies do not copy the old proven designs. There certainly can not be any patents still in force if there ever were any to begin with. Why build a larger surface area rectangular fire box when round and deep the proven design or why noy preheat the combustion airwhen a proven design? it does not make a bunch of sense in the end. Is it just people buying new stoves just do not know the difference or just trying to convert a woodstove into a coal stove?

My guess would be cost point. We had loads of foundrys back then and cast tons of iron. Nowadays it's cheaper and easier to weld plate steel.

ddahlgren wrote:

SteveZee wrote:Nikonmom, You stove is as I thought, and oak stove with back pipe. I can see this because there is no ring above the fire pot that a base burner would have. None the less, it's a fine stove and will be a great heater for you if restored and firepot lined with refractory.

Were the firepots lined when the stove was new and deteriorated now and gone or is the lining an update of sorts.

They were generally put in as "bricks". They would be cast in a mold to fit the circular pot size. They were about an inch thick and I'd imagine that over the years they broke or fell out. It's easy enough t replace or make a liner though. One member made molds and cast the original bricks for a Crystal Crawford! Came out really nice too.

SteveZee wrote:

ddahlgren wrote:It is kind of sad that the development of coal stoves seems to have gone backwards while everything else has gone forward. i wonder why new stove companies do not copy the old proven designs. There certainly can not be any patents still in force if there ever were any to begin with. Why build a larger surface area rectangular fire box when round and deep the proven design or why noy preheat the combustion airwhen a proven design? it does not make a bunch of sense in the end. Is it just people buying new stoves just do not know the difference or just trying to convert a woodstove into a coal stove?

My guess would be cost point. We had loads of foundrys back then and cast tons of iron. Nowadays it's cheaper and easier to weld plate steel.

No doubt a ton of EPA regs for foundrys now. I used to have one a mile away and still have one that casts bronze across town but a small custom operation for restoring old yachts.