coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

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coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: mason coal burner On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:07 pm

i'm kind of pissed at this guy . i called him a few days ago for price . his wife said she didn't know . i called back today he said he is not telling me his supplier . like it's a big secret . all he said it's from SE PA . i guess he doesn't think poeple care about quality . what do you guys think . makes me not want to do business with him .
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:29 pm

He's probably afraid you will quote him on the forum, and then the furor begins......too many cooks spoil the pie........ :idea: :idea: :idea:

Check your PM's. I have the info you requested. I'll try to PM the others that are waiting, because the TT's loads will be coming starting next week. Rice, Buck, Pea, Nut, no stove coal. If you want bagged, we must know that soon.

If you want a TT load direct, that's OK too.....as long as you have a 'safe, hazard free, level,' dumping spot for a 70+ ft rig that weighs 80K.
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: mason coal burner On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 7:37 pm

it is C and T coal in baldwinville MA . what's the big secret . thier are hundreds of sources on here to get coal in PA .
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:27 pm

I think they should present you with a report like the PennCoal site, or Blashak Site. The info is not secret, and is available to everyone who asks.
What will smitty say when he see that you have strayed across the border? '''he'll chime in very soon to set you straight".

:shock: :oops: :lol:

www.penncoal.com

Below is part of Penncoal's info page:

All coal is deep mined from the Williamstown #1 Mine, washed at a modern prep plant, and bagged at a bagging plant with 25 years experience.

All sizes of Anthracite are available: Stove, Chestnut, Pea, Buck, Rice, & Barley.

Coal is bagged in marked 50 lb tear resistant poly bags. Coal can be also obtained in unmarked bags.

1.25 tons per pallet, 18 pallets per truckload, 22.5 tons per truck, 900 50 lb bags.

Pallets are shinkwrapped for outdoor storage.

Coal specs: 13,200+ BTU dry, 7-9% ash, .6 sulfur, 2800+F AFT. Uniform size. No foreign material.

Bagging plant is located in eastern Pennsylvania near Pottsville. We can deliver or you may arrange pickup.
Please have access to a forklift or skid loader to unload palletized coal.

Coal is clean, high quality Anthracite deep mined and bagged at a plant with over 20 years of experience.
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: mason coal burner On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:36 pm

I sent you another PM this is a small time dealer . i can't find anyone in NH with loose coal . i work in MA and lived there my first 27 years . all my work is still in MA . people there still have money . i work around 128 belt concord , weston , wellesly , newton , dover , lincoln , brookline . don't see the problem he is selling it at a very good price 245 / ton loose picked up . if you say most coal is good whats his problem .
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 8:49 pm

Good God All-mighty ..... I feel for you brother. I'd have to be paid a hefty salary to travel into that bastion. ;) :lol: This is where all the rich, liberal yuppsters live so ya gotta do what you gotta do to make a buck -- can't fault you there.

I was wondering why anyone of sound mind would purchase coal in this hellhole. I see it's a matter of convenience for you, seeing that you work down here. But, as you can see, not only do the politics suck in this state ... but some most of the people do as well. :roll: I'd recommend going anywhere but here, even if it's a major inconvenience. In the long run it will actually be MORE convenient. This is one of the billions of reasons I hate this place ---no matter where you go, or what your shopping for, the seller has an attitude like they're doing humanity a huge favor by selling you a product. You get arrogant, cocky attitudes & piss-poor customer service. :mad: I deal with this whenever I shop locally for motorcycle or auto parts - you just can't win.

I'll say it again -- go ANYWHERE but here. But if you MUST get your coal here, Squire Lumber in Monson hasn't given me any *censored*. 8-)
SMITTY
 
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: mason coal burner On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:06 pm

how much per ton . do they sell loose . easier for me plus save a couple of bucks .
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:30 pm

Ahhh ... sorry .. not enough liquor to stimulate my reading comprehension skills yet. :D

As far as I know, they are bagged only ... but you can call them & find out if they have, or can get bulk. 413-267-5542. Bagged $259/ton.
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: coal berner On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 1:49 pm

whistlenut wrote:I think they should present you with a report like the PennCoal site, or Blashak Site. The info is not secret, and is available to everyone who asks.
What will smitty say when he see that you have strayed across the border? '''he'll chime in very soon to set you straight".

:shock: :oops: :lol:

http://www.penncoal.com

Below is part of Penncoal's info page:

All coal is deep mined from the Williamstown #1 Mine, washed at a modern prep plant, and bagged at a bagging plant with 25 years experience.

All sizes of Anthracite are available: Stove, Chestnut, Pea, Buck, Rice, & Barley.

Coal is bagged in marked 50 lb tear resistant poly bags. Coal can be also obtained in unmarked bags.

1.25 tons per pallet, 18 pallets per truckload, 22.5 tons per truck, 900 50 lb bags.

Pallets are shinkwrapped for outdoor storage.

Coal specs: 13,200+ BTU dry, 7-9% ash, .6 sulfur, 2800+F AFT. Uniform size. No foreign material.

Bagging plant is located in eastern Pennsylvania near Pottsville. We can deliver or you may arrange pickup.
Please have access to a forklift or skid loader to unload palletized coal.

Coal is clean, high quality Anthracite deep mined and bagged at a plant with over 20 years of experience.

Problem with Penn coal is they need to update their web page there statement about all deep mine coal from williamstown # 1 mine the mine open in 06 and closed in 09 no coal coming out of there as well as Scott kimmel coal co. Was sold under new ownership. The coal is Surface mined No Underground mine coal going there. Meadowbrook coal co /breaker processes the coal and it is trucked over to kimmel coal packing plant
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 3:20 pm

mason coal burner wrote:i'm kind of pissed at this guy . i called him a few days ago for price . his wife said she didn't know . i called back today he said he is not telling me his supplier . like it's a big secret . all he said it's from SE PA . i guess he doesn't think poeple care about quality . what do you guys think . makes me not want to do business with him .


Some dealers are protective of their source, and it is probably just their way of protecting their business. Personally I don't think being secretive helps their business any...if you were willing to order a TT load of coal you probably wouldn't be talking to a local dealer in the first place.

Can you get a small amount of their coal for a "test burn"?
Rob R.
 
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: mason coal burner On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:42 pm

that may be the plan . i found this place and one other that sell loose coal . i think i will try both .
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Re: coal guy wouldn't tell me who or where his coal comes from

PostBy: Scottscoaled On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:15 pm

If he won't tell you his source you can be sure that it is the bought it as cheap as he could get it kind. I think it's kind of funny that now all of us educated types demand the better stuff. Only way you would know it being outside the coal region would be reading this site. That coal dealer probly has a long list of satisfied customers who because they don't know the difference, think his coal is just fine. If his coal was crap he would be out of bisness :) I think it's also ironic that I don't ask the same questions about my meat, milk, coffee, all the rest of the things in my life. I do ask if it was made in the U.S.A. With the exception of my Franziscaner 16.9 ozer's :)
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