Shaker Grate Types

Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: Michel On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:46 pm

Hi Guys - I have 2 options of shaker grates to install in my stove - the type in this picture - and the type that is already installed in the stove. The only way I can describe what the ones in the stove look like is like a less than sign < one side has a standard grate - the other side is solid, and the 3rd side is open - like the less than sign. If this doesn't make sense - I'll try to take a picture and post it later on.

Please - what are the 2 types of shaker grate types for and which one is used for coal?

Regards,

Mike
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:50 pm

The grates pictured are rockers. I cannot follow you on the installed grates you are trying to explain.
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 8:53 pm

Well, it looks like you have found a project for yourself. Let's see some more detailed photos. The grates that you show there would work for coal. I'm not quite clear on the other set of grates you are talking about.
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: Michel On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 9:26 pm

OK - more pictures. The top picture is the solid side of a 3 sided shaker grate - the bottom picture is the 2nd side of the 3 sided shaker grate. The 3rd side is all opened. How it works when it's burning you're burning on the 2nd picture - the standard shaker grate - when you shake it down - the solid sides come together (maybe crushing the clinkers?) and the open side of the shaker grate would leave a small opening against the front and back of the stove.

Hope this helps - but now that I look at them and describe them to you - it seems like the correct ones are in. Let me know your thoughts.

Thanks!

Mike
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:02 pm

Your a little too close in those last two pics, back up a little so the whole thing is shown. I'm going to guess that flat ribbed thing is a fixed grate that goes between the two rockers.
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:12 pm

Perhaps the solid setting to burn wood and the other to burn coal. From your first pictures the base of the stove looks square but the grates and holder are long and narrow. Could you also post a picture of the body of the stove?
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: wsherrick On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:35 pm

What kind of a stove do you have there?
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: Michel On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:51 pm

Here is a picture of the stove - what you see is a facade - the cast iron stove is behind the enameled cast iron front. The only thing that it says on the back is Mohawk manufactured by Eagle Foundry Co Belleville Il Model#M181. I can't find any information about this stove except there's one that looks very similar on craigslist:


http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/for/1915520214.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


Mike
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: rockwood On: Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:26 pm

This stove probably has just 2 grates and from what you describe, they are the originals for this stove. Insert the grate turning tool in the right side of the stove and with the loading door open, rotate the tool in a clockwise direction, you should see the flat side of the grates appear while viewing them through loading door. Now if you rotate back the other way, the side of the grates with holes should be seen. Are the grates in the stove now in good condition? Are they warped, cracked and do they rotate easily? Are the second set of grates the right size for this stove? Are the last 2 photos you posted the grates that are in the stove now?....they look new.

As far as which ones to use...I'd use the ones in the first photo because the other style (second ones you posted) tend to dump too many live coals into the ash pit if you rotate them too far. But really, either grates you use would be fine, just requires time/practice to get used to them.
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: Michel On: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:29 am

The grates in the stove now are in good condition, not warped or cracked and do rotate easily. I have not tried the second set of grates to verify they are the right size for this stove(good point - since they came with the stove I just assumed they actually go with the stove). The last 2 photos I posted are the grates that are in the stove now - they look new because I wire brushed them down and put a coat of high temp paint to keep the rust down until I use the stove. I'll have to try and see if the other grates fit - it's not too difficult to change them out - just a few cotter pins.

Thanks for the feedback!

Mike
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: wsherrick On: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:02 pm

You have a circulator type stove, which dates from the mid to late 1920's. The most important thing you need to do is to inspect the cast iron innards of the stove and make sure the seams are all well sealed. You also should make sure the doors fit tight. The stove was air tight when it was new and there is no reason not to expect it to be so now. Check the latches and the door hinge pins to make sure they are not worn. If they are, adjust and/or replace them. Again, these areas are where most people mistakenly assume that, "oh well, the stove is old, they didn't know anything about air tight design back then," and then don't do anything about leaky seams or doors because they think that is just the way the stove was made. It looks to me like you also need some new mica in the loading door. It is cheap and easy to replace.
This stove should do well for you if you take the time to tend to the little details.
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: Michel On: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:05 pm

Thanks for the info. I did take the cast iron apart - the bolts were broken. I cleaned up what ever they sealed the pieces together and put it back together with stove sealant and new bolts. I'll take a look at the doors and try to get them to seal properly - I'm sure they will - the stove is in pretty good shape.

Regards,

Mike
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Re: Shaker Grate Types

PostBy: coal berner On: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:11 pm

Michel wrote:Hi Guys - I have 2 options of shaker grates to install in my stove - the type in this picture - and the type that is already installed in the stove. The only way I can describe what the ones in the stove look like is like a less than sign < one side has a standard grate - the other side is solid, and the 3rd side is open - like the less than sign. If this doesn't make sense - I'll try to take a picture and post it later on.

Please - what are the 2 types of shaker grate types for and which one is used for coal?

Regards,

Mike

There are lots of types of grates what you have is triplex grates two grates and a grate frame in first pics The solid piece looks like a baffel Plate. The second set of pics I can't see very well but look like Duplex grates one side is soild for burning wood the other side is open for burning coal must Rotate for the fuel your burning . They Don't look like Dock Ash grates

http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/4865/S ... iplex.html

http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/4864/S ... uplex.html

http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/4866/S ... k-Ash.html
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