difference bewteen the clayton 1600m and 1600g furnace

difference bewteen the clayton 1600m and 1600g furnace

PostBy: thomba24 On: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:05 pm

hello,

i recently bought what i was told, was a used clayton 1600g furnace, well, after further review i found out from the tag at the bottom of the furnace it was the 1600m series. i called US stove company and a sales rep/ employee told me there is no difference bewteen the two, and the 1600m was their Tractor Supply Company version. i checked both manuals and could not see much of a difference in parts and accessories.

I still wonder, why make two different versions and proclaim that there the same? did i pay for a better furnace and really get the Wal-Mart version?


Thanks for any help, it has been hard for me to find information on coal/wood furnaces

Brian from Buffalo
thomba24
 
Stove/Furnace Make: US stove company
Stove/Furnace Model: 1600m or 1600g?

Re: difference bewteen the clayton 1600m and 1600g furnace

PostBy: coal berner On: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:58 pm

thomba24 wrote:hello,

i recently bought what i was told, was a used clayton 1600g furnace, well, after further review i found out from the tag at the bottom of the furnace it was the 1600m series. i called US stove company and a sales rep/ employee told me there is no difference bewteen the two, and the 1600m was their Tractor Supply Company version. i checked both manuals and could not see much of a difference in parts and accessories.

I still wonder, why make two different versions and proclaim that there the same? did i pay for a better furnace and really get the Wal-Mart version?


Thanks for any help, it has been hard for me to find information on coal/wood furnaces

Brian from Buffalo

I see a 1600M and a 1602g but not a 1600g sure it was a supposed to be a 1600g and not a 1602g
I also see the 1602 M & 1602R on their web site . 1600M was their older model don't think it had the secondary heat exchanger or firebrick baffle like the newer 1602M and 1602R comes with


http://www.usstove.com/Downloads/index.php?dir=Owners%20Manuals/
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


http://www.usstove.com/index.php?route= ... ticle_id=2
coal berner
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1986 Electric Furnace Man 520 DF
Stove/Furnace Make: Electric Furnace Man
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: difference bewteen the clayton 1600m and 1600g furnace

PostBy: DOUG On: Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:08 am

Hi Brian from Buffalo and welcome to the forum. :) You came to the right place for answers. :idea:

Clayton was a furnace once made by another manufacture, the original designers of the furnace back in 1983, but they got into financial trouble and U.S.Stove I believe bought them out in the 1990's. The color of the original Clayton Furnace was a light beige. If I remember correctly, U.S.Stove changed it to red and then to green.

I have a lot of experience with the Clayton furnaces. U.S.Stove is correct in telling you that there isn't any difference between the 1600m and the 1600g models. What they didn't tell you is that the are a few slight differences in the electric controls. Depending on who is selling the furnace, whether it be a hardware store, Tractor Supply, or a catalog store, there were just a few slight differences between them. Nothing that makes any one style better or worse than the other.

When the 1600m came out, it could be had with either a manual draft spinner or an electrical thermostat controlled actuated spinner. Then they came out with the 1600g with a thermostatically controlled combustion draft blower on front in place of the manual draft spinner or electrical motorized draft spinner. This was a great improvement with the performance of the furnace. So much that they offer this thermostatically controlled combustion draft blower as a kit to upgrade a 1600m.

Now the 1602r is the new style Clayton, which they now call Ashley. It is now back to red color. The 1602r has two smaller blowers in the rear for forced hot air circulation, while the 1600m and 1600g have one large circulation blower.

I was once in contact with the Vice-President of Sales and Marketing and sent him some pictures and links to NEPA about my Clayton stoker conversion. Since then, in my opinion, it appears that they didn't like the idea of someone converting their Clayton to a stoker. The manuals got vivid about not to be used for stokers and they seemed to have dropped the Clayton 1600g from its line and replaced it with the new Ashley 1602 model line.

Anyway, the Clayton or Ashley 1600 series line of furnaces are a great designed stove. The only fault that they may have is the welds around the feed door, where the one piece of steel meets together that the feed door seals the gasket to. I have found that this area is usually just tack welded and not a full bead. I have had a few Claytons crack there and had to be welded at that point.

Here are a few links to the Clayton projects I have posted. successfully burning anthracite coal in a clayton furnace CLAYTON FURNACE WITH DUAL READING STOKERS LAST YEARS CLAYTON STOKER PROJECT CLAYTON FURNACE FIRED ON WOOD

So, sit back and enjoy reading. With your new Clayton installed, you will be in for a warm winter in your home. ;)

DOUG
DOUG
 
Stove/Furnace Make: CHUBBY, D.S.MACHINE BOILER
Stove/Furnace Model: CLAYTON 1600


Re: difference bewteen the clayton 1600m and 1600g furnace

PostBy: thomba24 On: Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:54 pm

Thanks for everyones help. Doug, you definitely know your stuff. I am new to the wood/coal furnace and a matter of fact I am a first time home buyer. I am rehabbing a 1880's house in the Buffalo area. I bought the house Jan 2010 along with the furnace. well, the rehabbing took longer than i thought and this will be my first winter using the furnace and living in the 2500 sq ft house. i recently improved all insulation and I plan on running my own ducting for my stand alone wood furnace. Now all i have to do is learn more about running the ducting from my wood furnace to the rooms, i have a good idea but I am always willing to absorb more knowledge and opinions on the matter.

one thing is for sure is that i feel good with my purchase and will learn more about my product from your useful links and information. i will search the archives and posts for proper ducting information and am looking forward to the use of these forums


Thanks

Brian

P.S postings and forums are all new to me as well. hopefully I did okay
thomba24
 
Stove/Furnace Make: US stove company
Stove/Furnace Model: 1600m or 1600g?

Re: difference bewteen the clayton 1600m and 1600g furnace

PostBy: DOUG On: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:22 am

Hey Brian,

Here is another link that you may find interesting when you ever start to burn Anthracite Coal in your Clayton :) . Slow Blue Dancing with Red Dressed Ladies in a Clayton
DOUG
 
Stove/Furnace Make: CHUBBY, D.S.MACHINE BOILER
Stove/Furnace Model: CLAYTON 1600