Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

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Price you pay per ton?

$120 or less
5
2%
$120 to $130
16
6%
$130 to $140
14
5%
$140 to $150
4
1%
$150 to $165
10
4%
$165 to $185
31
11%
$185 to $210
65
24%
$210 to $250
70
26%
$250 or More
57
21%
 
Total votes : 272

Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:37 pm

Thanks for the heads up on Jeddo. I guess you get what you pay for. Low bid is low for a reason.

I have Reading this year (my first year) and I have enough for two years. Yes there are wood chips (and plenty of them) in the pea coal but they have all fed through my axeman anthratube so it's not a problem.

thanks
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: coalstoves On: Sat Jan 12, 2008 3:42 am

Thanks for the info on Jeddo, if you do a search here the last couple of posts have been very positive about the product I guess they could be going thru a good batch . I too wondered about the low cost, sometimes my
You Get What You Pay For mentality kicks in . The warm weather last week it moved my plan to try a half Ton of Reading back a bit but that’s still the plan .

I chuckled when I seen the thing about wood, I like to imagine they are chips of 80 year old mine timbers cut from a log that was already 10 years old and sometimes I get a whiff of them during loading it's like potpourri to me .

Richard S. wrote:Jeddo in general has great product.
You can get coal from them comparable in quality to anything available but it's a hit and miss deal. Overall it will range from Good to very good, chances of getting a bad product are slim to none. One thing to note about their product is that the sizing is so consistent its almost ridiculous.


markm4 wrote:Hello all,
It has been a while since I last posted.
This is my first year burning my Leisure Line Pocono, and 'all in all' it is going very well.
What I have noticed is, that coal from different mines can be very different.
I got some coal at Jeddo Coal, near the LL store in Drums PA, and "by golly" that stuff burns hot!
I call it the "scarry hot coal"
Thanks
Mark


coaledsweat wrote:I found something about a Jeddo deep mine on the internet after buying it, I'm always a little sceptical. If it is stripped, they did a hell of a job. I have found no rocks or trash in 3 tons. Awfull good coal too.
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: LsFarm On: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:47 pm

I too have heard some very good reports about Jeddo coal lately. But I still remember the 20% ash and 10% unburnt coal from that source. And I was burning the stuff in my underfeed stoker that burns just about anything to a fine ash. For someone close to the breakers, it isn't such a gamble to buy a 1/2 or a ton. But for me with a $300 fuel bill to go get a load, It HAS to be good stuff. Therefore I prefer the deep mined stuff from sources that have a good consistant reputation. And a good price of course :D

:lol: The problem with those pieces of wood is that it is soaking wet!! I has been washed just like the coal, and has soaked up lots of water. It is like a sponge! Sizzles and steams on the fire. Gets wrapped around the worm in the underfeed stoker...

Greg L

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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: coal berner On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:34 am

I am Just wondering where Jeddo is getting they coal from because if you look under The Surface mining report there Production for coal tons are 0 and I know they do not have any Deep mines that far north UAE is the last Deep mine up north so where is there coal coming from But if you look under the Refuse Report they are pulling tons of coal of the old banks I also know this from two of my old friends that are hauling Tri - Axle for them They where hauling from Hazelton down to South Tamque coal pockets and Tuscarora coal breaker and mixing it with New coal so maybe that way it is
inconsistent in Quality


http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table05_anthracite_surface.htm
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http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table06_anthracite_refuse.htm
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http://www.dep.state.pa.us/dep/deputate/minres/bmr/annualreport/2006/table04_anthracite_underground.htm
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: coalstoves On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:45 am

coal berner wrote:I am Just wondering where Jeddo is getting they coal from because if you look under The Surface mining report there Production for coal tons are 0 and I know they do not have any Deep mines that far north UAE is the last Deep mine up north so where is there coal coming from But if you look under the Refuse Report they are pulling tons of coal of the old banks.
Two of my old friends that are hauling Tri - Axle for them They where hauling from Hazelton down to South Tamque coal pockets and Tuscarora coal breaker and mixing it with New coal so maybe that way it is inconsistent in Quality


I think the answer to this question has something to do with the business worlds way of doing things, a little research shows the Jeddo Coal co. and Robert Pagnotti are the same and Pagnotti has some impressive production figures n both the Jeddo Area 1 Mine and the Jeddo Basin E Mine .

The Tri-axle waste coal thing prolly has to do with the thriving Co-Gen Biz in that area that specializes in burning coal waste also the two breakers that you mention Tuscarora Coal Company and South Tamaqua Coal Pockets are affiliated with a broker that supplies low grade carbon based products and some heating coal with Tuscarora Coal Company selling exclusively thru them

http://www.centraliacoal.com/a1.html
http://www.centraliacoal.com/l1.html

Hope that helps answer your question, now I wondering if you could help me with one, often I see the Ash Content figure for coal thrown around as an indicator of its quality and I have read that it is a mathematical measurement based on weight and BTU per hour rather than the actual amount of ash produced and this would be supported by my own observations during the recent warm spell when the chimney produced marginal draft or below at times and the fire would simply lay there and cook while I didn't get a lot of heat the ash was reduced to a fine powder with almost no bulk you would almost swear it was different coal in a different stove . So I think ash content is relative to how it is burned and I wonder if focusing on BTU per hour would be a better indication of quality. Below is a chart with data from Jeddo,
Could you explain a bit to me how these figures are relative to the actual amount of heat I'm getting

Image
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: coalstoves On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:34 am

mikeandgerry wrote:
coalstoves wrote:Price per Ton Pea

Image ----- $128
Jeddo
( Here good stuff about this coal )


Where is the breaker?



From Interstate 80 – Eastbound or Westbound
Take Exit 262 and travel South on SR 309 into Hazleton.

From Interstate 81 – Northbound or Southbound
Take Exit 145, “West Hazleton”, Route 93.
Turn RIGHT onto Route 93 South.
Turn LEFT at the second traffic light onto the Airport Beltway (at the Turkey Hill).
Travel 2.4 miles to the third traffic light (passing Wal-Mart and the Airport on your right).
Turn RIGHT onto SR 309 South into Hazleton.

Then

At the first traffic light in Hazleton at the McDonald’s make a LEFT towards SR 940.
Go straight through the next traffic light onto SR 940 at the Turkey Hill.
Travel 2.0 miles until you see a small reservoir on your left..
Slow down and turn RIGHT immediately after the reservoir.
Go over Railroad Tracks and bear LEFT to the Ebervale Office.
The main office is about half way down the building


As a note it is always good to call the breaker before going .
Saturday I discovered Reading Anthracite only operates Mon-Fri so I went to the ever reliable Blaschak despite my desire to experiment with some different coal .
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: mike On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:52 pm

Jeddo has a big strip mine right by there breaker. They have a couple of walking draglines that they are running so this isn't some rinky dink operation. I burnt some of there coal in my reading stoker and I'm happy with it. I think they are stripping the mammoth and the wharton veins.
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: upstate On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:48 pm

What is the furthest north breaker north in pa, and how is the quality? Looking to get a load and comming fron NY.
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: mike On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:02 pm

The farthest north breaker is hudson anthracite near pittston. The coal is good, there might be some better breakers out there but I never heard of anybody getting a bad load either from there.
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:11 pm

what is the name of the mine in lavelle?
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: mike On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:22 pm

I think DiRenzo's is the name of the breaker in Lavelle.
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: coalstoves On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:47 pm

upstate wrote:What is the furthest north breaker north in pa, and how is the quality? Looking to get a load and comming fron NY.

I'd go for the Jeddo but if your worried about guaranteed burning consistency and don't want to chance it go for the Blaschak, it burns Hot and Clean in any appliance you use it in, you will here a lot about some companies Deep mining and quality but this is a predominate or total red ash mix and can be problematic ( Won't Burn ) in some stoves, before purchasing a large amount of Red Ash exclusive coal I would test it first to see what results I got .
When ever I have had a coal buying experiment go bad I revert to Blaschak to relieve my anxiety and at times simply mix the offending coal into the Blaschak coal to get it to burn .

" This is a just a personal opinion based on having used Blaschak for over Ten years "
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: mike On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:55 pm

Blaschaks is always a pretty good bet, maybe just a touch high in ash content sometimes but it does always seem to burn good. Hudson Anthracite is a safe bet too, and it's probably a good bit cheaper than some of the others.
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: coalstoves On: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:03 pm

Hudsons a new one to me Mike sounds good though, if I get a chance monday I'll give them a call and post the price here for folks to see .
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Re: Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2007-08

PostBy: Richard S. On: Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:26 am

We dealt exclusively with Hudson for about 15 years (i.e. a couple hundred thousand ton ;) ) because they consistently had good coal. As I posted above it may be a little more than others in the area but its worth the extra bucks. You won't find a better product in the Wyoming Valley and it can certainly compete with others outside the Valley, just might be a little more than if you traveled further south but the time and gas will make up for the difference.
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