Frustrated with NJ coal prices

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Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: ScubaSteve On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:23 pm

I'm a little frustrated... I've checked with 3 different dealers and they all want $320+ a ton p/u or $330+ a ton delivery. I don't expect to get coal as cheap as in NEPA but I personally think that these prices are steep. Does anyone have any info on coal in NJ that is priced fairly? When I see posts from people further away from me from the mines for $260 a ton delivered I feel like Im getting burned. help :(
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:26 pm

With prices like that the dealers are going to price themselves right out of business! Pellets are being advertised for $265 a ton around here.
You might need to make a run to NEPA!
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: ScubaSteve On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:29 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:With prices like that the dealers are going to price themselves right out of business! Pellets are being advertised for $265 a ton around here.
You might need to make a run to NEPA!

Pellets? or Pallets?, lol
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: ScubaSteve On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:31 pm

The most I can buy at a time is 3 tons due to storage issues, so buying 10 or 20 tons at a time unfortunately is out of the question.
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:38 pm

Even for 3 ton you're looking at savings of $400+/- if you drive here and pick it up yourself. Sounds like it's worth a Saturday to me. ;)
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: sterling40man On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:42 pm

Those prices are insane!!! :mad: According to Google, you only live about 150 miles from coal country. I'm paying $265 bagged and I live 750 miles from there. Like Richard said it may be time for a road trip!
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: ScubaSteve On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:46 pm

sterling40man wrote:Those prices are insane!!! :mad: According to Google, you only live about 150 miles from coal country. I'm paying $265 bagged and I live 750 miles from there. Like Richard said it may be time for a road trip!

I wish I had the vehicle to pick it up myself. The most I can muster is possibly a fullsize pickup. I would even rent a small dump truck if I could
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:00 pm

ScubaSteve wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:With prices like that the dealers are going to price themselves right out of business! Pellets are being advertised for $265 a ton around here.
You might need to make a run to NEPA!

Pellets? or Pallets?, lol


Wood pellets.

The most I can muster is possibly a fullsize pickup.


Rent a U-Haul trailer and make the trip.
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You can take a ride out to NEPA or up here to American Coal, even with the gas and trailer rental you'll still save.
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: ScubaSteve On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:08 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:
ScubaSteve wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:With prices like that the dealers are going to price themselves right out of business! Pellets are being advertised for $265 a ton around here.
You might need to make a run to NEPA!

Pellets? or Pallets?, lol


Wood pellets.

The most I can muster is possibly a fullsize pickup.


Rent a U-Haul trailer and make the trip.
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You can take a ride out to NEPA or up here to American Coal, even with the gas and trailer rental you'll still save.

You know what bites? I tried to rent a trailer from U haul, ad they wouldnt because i have an 07 Jeep wrangler and because it is considered a convertible they wont authorize it, grrrr :blowup:
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:10 pm

Yes, U Haul also won't rent trailers to Ford Explorer drivers. What about the pick-up?
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: ScubaSteve On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:18 pm

Wood'nCoal wrote:Yes, U Haul also won't rent trailers to Ford Explorer drivers. What about the pick-up?

Well, its my brothers, I know he would let me borrow it. The question is, that It is a fullsize dodge 1500, so realistically how much coal could I legally haul in it? 1 ton? Is it worth the drive with gas/tolls to nepa for 1 ton??
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 9:33 pm

You can haul 3/4 to 1 ton in the bed and about 1 1/2 in a rented trailer. 1 ton fills the 8 foot bed on my F-250 half way, the rental 5' X 8' utility trailer is listed at 1,890 lbs. max cargo weight. Based on my real life experience with them they are built to haul much more then that, but it's better to be on the safe side. ;)

A truck with heavier axles and suspension can haul more, I have carried 2 ton in my truck.
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:16 pm

John, how much is on the 6x12 in the above pic?

In the making trip to uae harmony, there's a lot of discussion on using the uhaul trailers.
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: sweeperman On: Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:22 pm

I to live in jersey I rented a trailer and picked up 3.5 tons nut coal from UAE harmony today for 150.ton I think you need 3/4 or 1 ton truck to haul that size load last year i paid 360. ton baged blascak in redbank NJ I also went to American coal and got bagged kimmels for 270.ton it was good coal. not many people burn coal by us to make it good bussnes to deal with it
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Re: Frustrated with NJ coal prices

PostBy: coal berner On: Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:43 am

By: sweeperman On: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:48 pm
For what it's worth, the 6X12 U-Haul utility trailer has 2 4500 lbs. axles and hubs. The tires are rated 2040 lbs. ea. at 65 psi. The Axel and frame of that trailer is the same as their largest car carrier trailer. Me personally, I feel more then comfortable putting a 3.5 ton load on that trailer with the proper tow vehicle and care of driving
You will need 3' to 4' pieces of plywood on back front and sides to hold 3.5 or 4 tons the sides front back of trailer are to
low so you need some plywood to hold the coal in plus tarp & tie downs to cover the load
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