using a creek for domestic water

using a creek for domestic water

PostBy: ktm rider On: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:12 pm

I live on top of a mountian and I drilled a well 5 years ago when I built my house. I have a VERY high Iron content that my wife is sick of. I also have a very nice creek that originates just off my property in a state forest. I want to use this creek water for home use and once it gets to my house I will be running it through the whole house filtering system i already have. This water is in no way contaminated and the small town that is 4 miles down stream used this water for years as household water that ran into their resevior.

I was thinking of building a small dam up stream on my property line and piping water to a buried septic tank ( new of course. lol ) that would be about 300 ft. down stream. allowing for the overflow to run back into the stream. Then putting a pump inside the tank and piping that water up to the house and tying that into my home filter system that is already in place to eliminate contaminates ( hopefully)

any thoughts, ideas, comments on how you would do this any differently????
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PostBy: cheapheat On: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:38 pm

That sounds like a great idea to me KTM. A small town near me has bad well water but everyone in town filled there containers from a rusty old pipe that was spring fed. Jim
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PostBy: jpen1 On: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:05 pm

At our summer cottage we have a spring fed water system with a resevoir and the whole nine yards. Your plan will probably work but if the steam fall under the category of primitive trout stream just don't get caught . DEP has regulations about taping into such water ways and you will probably need toget a usage permit of some sort. Also since you will be getting water from an open water way you will need to either boil your water or add a UV light to remove the microbes from the water. These light range from about $500 on up depending on the flow you require. They can be obtained at a good plumbing shop. We run our sysytem on gravity feed with a line pressure of about 50 -60 psi at the faucet. This obtained by staring with a large dia. pipe like 6" and gradually stepping it down to 1 1/2" well pipe. I don't know the exact elevation change ratio but I would guess it has a drop of about 30' in about 500- 600 yds.
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PostBy: Yanche On: Mon Jun 11, 2007 5:27 pm

Take a look at the following link on small water systems:

http://www.usace.army.mil/publications/ ... 03/toc.htm

What it describes is much larger than you need but it will be a good reference for the design principles and water quality issues.
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PostBy: ktm rider On: Tue Jun 12, 2007 4:19 pm

jpen1,

Yep, I am going use a UV filter for sure. Not much worry about getting caught. The stream originates on my property and i live in the middle of nowhere anyway. My nearest neighbor is about 3 miles away.
I plan on using this same stream to power my house in the near future so I am going to be using this stream plenty. But, all the stream water will be going back into the stream anyway.
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PostBy: jpen1 On: Wed Jun 13, 2007 6:13 pm

Ktm,
Sounds like your situation is just about like ours. We have about five or six very productive springs which for a eigh to ten foot wide steam by the time it leaves our acerage. We just put a dam in the stream about 50 yds. from the springs and return the unused water back into the stream.
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PostBy: e.alleg On: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:44 am

what happens in the winter?
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PostBy: ktm rider On: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:24 am

e.alleg wrote:what happens in the winter?


This whole project will be buried. The tank, lines, etc..
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PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Jun 17, 2007 11:57 am

What if it gets so cold the creek freezes? :shock:
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PostBy: gambler On: Sun Jun 17, 2007 1:14 pm

NEPAForum Admin wrote:What if it gets so cold the creek freezes? :shock:


You will be Sh-t out of luck.

I have never seen a creek freeze solid. There is always water running under the ice.
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PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Jun 17, 2007 6:45 pm

Niagara falls froze over. :shock:

http://www.niagarafallslive.com/Facts_a ... _Falls.htm

Apprently not completely froze over but caused by a ice jam.
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PostBy: LsFarm On: Sun Jun 17, 2007 9:48 pm

I asked KTM about freezing. He will retain his well system as a backup water source if the weather gets cold enough to freeze the burried pipes.

I suffered with really rusty water for years at my previous house, filters, filters and more filters. Softeners and reverse-osmosis systems and they all had very limited life with the high iron content..

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PostBy: coaledsweat On: Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:05 am

LsFarm wrote:I suffered with really rusty water for years at my previous house, filters, filters and more filters. Softeners and reverse-osmosis systems and they all had very limited life with the high iron content..


Did you try a Manganese filter?
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PostBy: ktm rider On: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:39 am

As Greg said, I will be retaining my current well system also. But, I have yet to see the creek freeze completely over. It usually just gets a ice sheet on the top.
I have tried all kinds of filters and filtering systems, Manganese included along with a salt system and now the Pyrolox system. They all seem to work well for a few months then they just start to loose their effectiveness...
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PostBy: CoalBin On: Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:57 am

You may want to get the stream water tested for the same minerals that are in your well before comitting any major $$$ to the project.
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