Pickup truck capacity

PostBy: Charlie Z On: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:16 pm

I looked up the empty (~4200#) and GVWR (6250).

It's got 235/75s and factory HD springs, but it's still a 5 lug hub.

So, I figure a ton will be ok in it. Thanks all for the confirmation.
Charlie Z
 
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PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:01 am

Hey Charlie Z my old 87 1/2 ton 2 wheel drive empty weight is 4660lbs with a full tank of gas 20gal. G. V. W. on the door says 5660lbs so one ton takes it up to 6660lbs so you should be ok with one ton make sure the tires are in good shape and filled up to the max psi let me know where you are going for the coal in pa PM me with info take care talk to you later
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PostBy: Charlie Z On: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:41 am

Thanks JC - I'll contact you before I set out. I'm still trying to find something with more capacity. I was hoping to stuff 1.5 tons in. I had a hydro trailer lined up, but...

At a ton at a time. I only save about $40-50 over the local guy ($270). When you consider the travel costs, the ride is 6hrs RT thru NYC, so that's a poor payout.
Charlie Z
 
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PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:51 am

I went through the same haul coal yourself vs. local delivery for a few years. I finally bought a 10K GVW trailer. It was expensive and could never pay for itself in coal price savings. But I have additional uses for it. Now I can get a seasons worth of coal in two trips to NEPA. A six hour round trip for me. It's not all an economic issue, there's considerable comfort in being self reliant and having the option to buy elsewhere.
Yanche
 
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PostBy: coal berner On: Wed Jun 20, 2007 4:38 pm

Charlie Z wrote:Thanks JC - I'll contact you before I set out. I'm still trying to find something with more capacity. I was hoping to stuff 1.5 tons in. I had a hydro trailer lined up, but...

At a ton at a time. I only save about $40-50 over the local guy ($270). When you consider the travel costs, the ride is 6hrs RT thru NYC, so that's a poor payout.
understand charlie if you are paying 270 a ton and say 50.00 in gas and you come down here and pay 120 a ton to 140 a ton you are still saving money at 120 a ton you will save 150 - 50 for gas you are at 100.00 in savings at 140.00 a to you still saving 80.00 a ton so try to find a trailer to buy or borrow that way you will save more money and you can pick up more coal I have a 4x8 trailer that will hold a ton plus the truck so that is two tons you will save 160 to 200 a ton well just let me know when you are ready to get coal i will take you to the breakers take care talk to you later
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PostBy: CoalBin On: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:30 am

CharlieZ

I don't know how much coal you would / could carry with a trailer on the back of a F150. There quite a few long hills on 80 on the way back from PA = power going up & brakes going down. Whats your gearing, do you have a tranny cooler & brake controller ?

I've pulled I80 (Stroudsburg) through the Cross Bronx 3x this year - Pulling a fully loaded dual axle trailer through the Bronx is not a good place to start wondering about equipment. (produces rapid change in hair color) It's definitely going to cost you more than $50 in gas and tolls.

Don't take me wrong - I'm cheaper than the next guy - & I've run through quite few options & I've concluded no coal trips for me - your mileage may vary.

You can make up half your savings by increasing your coal storage capacity. When I called 'our guy' the price went down to $238 a ton w/ free delivery when I order 4 tons. I asked what their truck capacity was & I think they said 6 or 7 & that there is another price break for a full load. Plus they put it in the bin for you. Even better - If you have the room & access - contract a full semi trailer load. Food for thought.

Now if I had a diesel dump truck........wait, my wife would kill me - but then I would not need coal ......hmmmmm :twisted:
CoalBin
 
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PostBy: gambler On: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:09 pm

charlieZ, I can tell you from past experience that if your trailer does not have brakes on it and it has 1 ton of coal in it and you have another 1 ton of coal in the bed of your f-150 stopping is going to start becoming an issue.
gambler
 
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PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:25 pm

2,500 on truck & trailer = 5,000 total 1st pic

2nd pic, 3,000 in bed!!

1/2 ton Chevy K1500 w/266,000 miles! :band:
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trailer capacity

PostBy: mike76 On: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:08 am

i have a 4x6 trailer with 2000lbs cap can i fit 1 ton on it the sides are 1 ft.high
mike76
 

PostBy: LsFarm On: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:16 am

Hi Mike76, 4x6x1 is 24 cubic feet, coal is usually about 40-44 cubic feet per ton, so no your trailer won't hold a ton, you need to double the sidewall height to get a ton onboard without spilling it over the sides.

greg L
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PostBy: e.alleg On: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:29 pm

I figured it out; $36,000 for a 1 ton diesel pickup, $10,000 for a gooseneck dump trailer, at 10 tons/year @ $100/ton savings I can break even in 46 years not counting the gas or the interest on the loan. Doing it myself: priceless! :lol:
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PostBy: Yanche On: Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:52 am

Since I had a half ton pickup I went with a smaller trailer, 10,000 GVW. Break even payback 12 years. Two trips per season to NEPA priceless. :-)
Yanche
 
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PostBy: e.alleg On: Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:22 pm

I'm probably going to buy a one-ton pickup truck regardless of the payback, I have been using my Dodge Caravan and Toyota Camry and a homemade 4x8 trailer to haul motorcycles and things that I buy/sell (usually heavy things) all over the country and it's taken it's toll on every part. When I get my van inspected I ask them to check off any parts that DON'T need replacement. :P
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PostBy: gaw On: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:40 pm

Yanche wrote:Since I had a half ton pickup I went with a smaller trailer, 10,000 GVW. Break even payback 12 years. Two trips per season to NEPA priceless. :-)


Now that you have the trailer you will find other things to haul, and by now you are probably wondering how you made it so long without a trailer.
I bet your neighbors that don't have trailers are being very friendly to you and soon you will be the most popular guy in the neighborhood.
gaw
 
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PostBy: Rex On: Fri Aug 31, 2007 8:39 am

I have a Chevy K2500 diesel and filled with 2,500#. Ran really well during the 40 minute drive. I wont go any heavier.
Rex
 
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