Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: colt On: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:10 pm

Can you post pic's of the car that you are restoring.
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: summerangel1133 On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:15 am

Thank you all for the advice!
I don't know what kind of stove I'm getting but the guy did say it would burn wood or coal, he also said it was about 3 ft tall and 2 ft around.

I am thinking about the coal route since we have a whole lot of it in the basement so the coal is free and we don't know what else to do with it. My garage is just a one car standard non insulated garage I have 3 ft on either side of the sunfire I am working on and about 6 ft between the front and back of the car.It has a window that has 6 panes on the bottom and 6 panes on the top, that's where I thought I would put the stove for easy ventilation (knock out a pane or two or just make the whole bottom window for the vent hole).

We also have a shed out back where we keep all chemicals and flammables (garage is attached to house via breezeway, if shed blows we just lose the shed :) ). There is about 4 or 5 ft between the side of our garage and my neighbors fence.

I did not think about the town permit thing, so thank you for that!

Also, if I do the stove thing, do I need to get one with a fan to circulate the warm air? Is the fan more important than the size of the stove?

I really do appreciate all of you giving me ideas and advise! Thank you!
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: WNY On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:25 am

A fan or blower would help move the heat around, but if it's not insulated, you will be fighting a loosing battle depending on the temps, do you have anything on the ceiling? or does it go right up to the roof? some type of ceiling would help keep the heat in the area you are working, anything would help, even staple cardboard up to stop the heat from going too far up.

Depending on the TYPE and SIZE of coal you do have in your basement, that may determine the type of stove if you were to use it. Check Craigslist, there are always coal and/or wood stoves for sale.
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: summerangel1133 On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:27 am

I hope this works, let me know if you want more pics when its done ;) PS I stripped it and am recovering the interior in black and red plaid fabric.

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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: WNY On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:43 am

That's the way to do it? You customizing it or just fixing it up?
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: summerangel1133 On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 9:54 am

I picked the convertible up for $175 it was so gross on the inside I couldn't even sit in it, it smelled so bad! So I ripped out the seats and carpet, I sold the seats (after 2 months of airing them out!) and I took the seats out of the parts car to recover. I am in the process of pulling the engine and every other thing off the parts car right now (well later when it's a little warmer anyway), then I am cutting it up and hauling it to the scrapyard. That will probably take about a month or so depending on how soon I can get the garage heated. The only 'customization' I am doing to the convertible is recovering the seats in plaid. Then I am swapping all the good parts from the totaled car to the conv, then off to my mechanics to put the engine/tranny in, get a sticker and get it on the road. Then I get a week to a month with her to make sure she is solid with no problems and then she's up for sale. Probably just in time for spiring. It's a shame though, it has a remote start on it and my daily driver doesn't, could really use one of those coming up in about a month :)

PS check out the 'seems reasonable' post, I am going to laugh about that for a few days!
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: summerangel1133 On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:00 am

WNY wrote:A fan or blower would help move the heat around, but if it's not insulated, you will be fighting a loosing battle depending on the temps, do you have anything on the ceiling? or does it go right up to the roof? some type of ceiling would help keep the heat in the area you are working, anything would help, even staple cardboard up to stop the heat from going too far up.

Depending on the TYPE and SIZE of coal you do have in your basement, that may determine the type of stove if you were to use it. Check Craigslist, there are always coal and/or wood stoves for sale.



How do I know the TYPE and SIZE? Most of the pieces on top anyway are just a little bigger than a ping pong ball, of course there are probably smaller pieces under that...

I am totally okay with the idea of starting the stove on Friday to make it warm by Sat morning and just letting it burn til it goes out or Sunday, whichever comes first. The garage doesn't have to be 70 degrees just above 40 would be great!
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: Coalfire On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 10:21 am

RAYJAY wrote:
jeromemsn wrote:Hate to be this way............but..............are you nuts???? Do not heat a garage with a coal or wood stove. Gas fumes hug the ground. Your stove will be on the ground. If you like "BOOM" go for it. Your insurance company will never pay you for a claim if they find out that you had a coal or wood stove in your garage.

Check with your township where you live. Very specific rules as to heating a garage where fuel, oil and other household items that are flammable will be kept.

Please enjoy the forum. Please don't blow-up!

:)



then what would you heat a garage with ?????? gas heat has a flame ..... so does oil ..........commercial garages use either gas heat forced air or waste oil heaters forced air so what would you use to heat it with ?????


i used gas forced air for years, the cost of heating my 30 x60 area was just getting out of hand, so i got a harman stoker for out there this year best thing i ever did .bd.....

Jeff

Every garage/shop I've been in had a space ray, or oil heat mounted up high. There was one shop that had a furnace room and some vapors drifted in and well the rest is history, now his furnace is mounted up high in his new building :shock: . I haven't read this whole post, but maybe it would be advisable to place the stove up on block about 18", as most of your vapors are heavier, than air. I was on a fire call a couple of years ago guy lost his life, from a stove in his shop, vapors drifted over and that was it. Please just be careful.
Best of luck, Eric
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:04 pm

Sounds like a plan---sounds like NUT size---the cstove you described sounds like a Chubby or something similar :)
summerangel1133 wrote:
WNY wrote:A fan or blower would help move the heat around, but if it's not insulated, you will be fighting a loosing battle depending on the temps, do you have anything on the ceiling? or does it go right up to the roof? some type of ceiling would help keep the heat in the area you are working, anything would help, even staple cardboard up to stop the heat from going too far up.

Depending on the TYPE and SIZE of coal you do have in your basement, that may determine the type of stove if you were to use it. Check Craigslist, there are always coal and/or wood stoves for sale.



How do I know the TYPE and SIZE? Most of the pieces on top anyway are just a little bigger than a ping pong ball, of course there are probably smaller pieces under that...

I am totally okay with the idea of starting the stove on Friday to make it warm by Sat morning and just letting it burn til it goes out or Sunday, whichever comes first. The garage doesn't have to be 70 degrees just above 40 would be great!
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: summerangel1133 On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:08 pm

Oh that is just FANTASTIC! So what you are saying is it sounds like I am going to end up with Chubby Nuts? Thats perfect! Just what I always wanted ;)
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:50 pm

summerangel1133 wrote:Oh that is just FANTASTIC! So what you are saying is it sounds like I am going to end up with Chubby Nuts? Thats perfect! Just what I always wanted ;)

:clap: :doh: toothy
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: david78 On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:54 pm

summerangel1133 wrote:Oh that is just FANTASTIC! So what you are saying is it sounds like I am going to end up with Chubby Nuts? Thats perfect! Just what I always wanted ;)


Not quite sure how to respond to that one. toothy
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: rockwood On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:01 pm

summerangel1133 wrote:Oh that is just FANTASTIC! So what you are saying is it sounds like I am going to end up with Chubby Nuts? Thats perfect! Just what I always wanted ;)

That's the funniest thing I've heard all day :lol: :lol:
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: Berlin On: Sun Nov 21, 2010 6:21 pm

Be careful, if you bring your local code enforcement officer into the situation you may be prohibited from placing ANY solid fuel equiptment inside of your garage, at the least you will be prohibited from simply running single-wall pipe outside.
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Re: Girl from MS needs help to learn to heat garage with coal?

PostBy: summerangel1133 On: Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:05 pm

That just doesn't make any sense.... In Mississippi PLENTY of people blow up their garages with kerosene heaters and space heaters, does Maine really worry about all that SOOO much? I guess I will find out next week when I may or may not be able to get ahold of a permit guy at Westbrooks offices. I would think a space heater run on 70 yr old wires or a kerosene heater would be LESS SAFE than a stove.... If anyone is around Scarborough there is a person there looking to get rid of about 3 or 4 bags of nut sized coal (I don't need it, I have a bunch already and no stove yet!) Just msg me if you are close and want it and I will email her back. Thanks!
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