85R

Re: 85R

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:29 pm

I thought it felt warmer out here the past few days ..... now I know why! :D
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Re: 85R

PostBy: Pacowy On: Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:49 pm

I'd like to take credit, but for now we're just making DHW. Some of the hot air probably wafted in from the east.

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: 85R

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:24 pm

:funny: :funny: :funny: Yeah, your right!
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Re: 85R

PostBy: steamup On: Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:54 pm

Pacowy wrote:Yes, the nameplate says the capacity of the 350 is more like 1.4M btu/hr, so we could really open up the 85R if needed. We're running at about 60 lb/hr, and with that we fill all the radiators with steam and build a small positive pressure but rarely hit the high pressure cutoff. When it hit -20 deg F last winter the stoker ran for about 14 hours/day, so that's about 840 lb - not a ton, but still a workout!

Trying to improve coal and ash handling logistics this year. Aiming to bring the coal to the bin in 55 gallon drums if I can find a reasonable way to dump them into the bin. Suggestions always welcome!

Thanks.

Mike



Northern tool has a variety of material handling equipment that might be good for ideas.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... -equipment


Most of the time low steam pressure is all you need. Many buildings designed only need 2-3 psi most of the time. Lower the pressure, the easier it will be on fuel. Hint, if you get knocking in the pipes, INCREASE the steam pressure.

Check the nameplate again. If it is 1.4 million "NET IBR" that is output. The boiler could take up to 1.8 million input, not that you need it.
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Re: 85R

PostBy: Townsend On: Wed Oct 12, 2011 5:26 am

Mike, where did you get that awesome barrel for a coal bin? Is that an old wine cask? Love to see some more pics if possible of that set up.

Steve
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260
Coal Size/Type: Pea / Buck

Re: 85R

PostBy: Pacowy On: Thu Oct 13, 2011 7:52 pm

steamup wrote:
Pacowy wrote:Yes, the nameplate says the capacity of the 350 is more like 1.4M btu/hr, so we could really open up the 85R if needed. We're running at about 60 lb/hr, and with that we fill all the radiators with steam and build a small positive pressure but rarely hit the high pressure cutoff. When it hit -20 deg F last winter the stoker ran for about 14 hours/day, so that's about 840 lb - not a ton, but still a workout!

Trying to improve coal and ash handling logistics this year. Aiming to bring the coal to the bin in 55 gallon drums if I can find a reasonable way to dump them into the bin. Suggestions always welcome!

Thanks.

Mike



Northern tool has a variety of material handling equipment that might be good for ideas.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... -equipment


Most of the time low steam pressure is all you need. Many buildings designed only need 2-3 psi most of the time. Lower the pressure, the easier it will be on fuel. Hint, if you get knocking in the pipes, INCREASE the steam pressure.

Check the nameplate again. If it is 1.4 million "NET IBR" that is output. The boiler could take up to 1.8 million input, not that you need it.


Thanks for the material handling suggestion. I wish drum dumpers weren't so expensive; hopefully I can cobble together something that will work ok.

I've attached a pic of the nameplate. If I'm reading it correctly, this 7-section boiler is rated (on the second row) for a little over 1.4 million btu/hr gross input.

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: 85R

PostBy: Pacowy On: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:06 pm

Townsend wrote:Mike, where did you get that awesome barrel for a coal bin? Is that an old wine cask? Love to see some more pics if possible of that set up.

Steve


I'm not sure what it originally was for. I got it from a guy on Craigslist who had used it for a coal bin. It's about 4' high and 4' in diameter, so it holds about 360 gallons/48 cubic feet/1.2 tons. As shown in the pics, I have the bin auger drawing coal from the dispensing door. I have a doghouse inside, but the action of the auger seems to pull some of the coal toward the opening, so I get a little spillage. Right now I'm trying to run it down to empty so I can get a good cleanout of the fines and any weird stuff.

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: 85R

PostBy: Townsend On: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:39 pm

Thanks, that is awesome!
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Re: 85R

PostBy: steamup On: Fri Oct 14, 2011 7:55 am

Pacowy wrote:
steamup wrote:
Pacowy wrote:Yes, the nameplate says the capacity of the 350 is more like 1.4M btu/hr, so we could really open up the 85R if needed. We're running at about 60 lb/hr, and with that we fill all the radiators with steam and build a small positive pressure but rarely hit the high pressure cutoff. When it hit -20 deg F last winter the stoker ran for about 14 hours/day, so that's about 840 lb - not a ton, but still a workout!

Trying to improve coal and ash handling logistics this year. Aiming to bring the coal to the bin in 55 gallon drums if I can find a reasonable way to dump them into the bin. Suggestions always welcome!

Thanks.

Mike



Northern tool has a variety of material handling equipment that might be good for ideas.

http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/ ... -equipment


Most of the time low steam pressure is all you need. Many buildings designed only need 2-3 psi most of the time. Lower the pressure, the easier it will be on fuel. Hint, if you get knocking in the pipes, INCREASE the steam pressure.

Check the nameplate again. If it is 1.4 million "NET IBR" that is output. The boiler could take up to 1.8 million input, not that you need it.


Thanks for the material handling suggestion. I wish drum dumpers weren't so expensive; hopefully I can cobble together something that will work ok.

I've attached a pic of the nameplate. If I'm reading it correctly, this 7-section boiler is rated (on the second row) for a little over 1.4 million btu/hr gross input.

Mike



Yep, you are reading it correctly, the 350 is no longer cataloged on the internet, only the 3500, so I wasn't sure.

I know a guy that has represented HB smith commercial boilers for over 30 years. If you need anything, I can give you his contact info.
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Coal Size/Type: pea, buck, rice

Re: 85R

PostBy: Pacowy On: Fri Oct 14, 2011 9:02 am

Thanks - that would be great. I fervently hope not to need anything for the boiler, but having his info available would be good "just in case".

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: 85R

PostBy: MATTHEW D. On: Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:14 pm

Pacowy wrote:
Townsend wrote:Mike, where did you get that awesome barrel for a coal bin? Is that an old wine cask? Love to see some more pics if possible of that set up.

Steve


I'm not sure what it originally was for. I got it from a guy on Craigslist who had used it for a coal bin. It's about 4' high and 4' in diameter, so it holds about 360 gallons/48 cubic feet/1.2 tons. As shown in the pics, I have the bin auger drawing coal from the dispensing door. I have a doghouse inside, but the action of the auger seems to pull some of the coal toward the opening, so I get a little spillage. Right now I'm trying to run it down to empty so I can get a good cleanout of the fines and any weird stuff.

Mike

That's one unique setup Mike, great job with everything! I found a similar stoker this summer, a Motor Stoker. It's Alot smaller than the 85R. Here are some pics.
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Re: 85R

PostBy: Pacowy On: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:16 pm

Thanks.

Were you taking out that Motor Stokor? I hope it has a good home. :yes:

Mike
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Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: 85R

PostBy: MATTHEW D. On: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:27 pm

Pacowy wrote:Thanks.

Were you taking out that Motor Stokor? I hope it has a good home. :yes:

Mike

I have it in my garage now and want to refurbish it. I plan to keep it for myself
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Re: 85R

PostBy: McGiever On: Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:56 pm

Glenn Harris has a You-Tube video of one of these running un-fired.
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Re: 85R

PostBy: Townsend On: Sat Oct 22, 2011 7:35 pm

Cool stuff Matt!
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