Sullivan's Trail

Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:17 pm

President George Washington told General Sullivan to find the Iroquois....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sullivan_Expedition
http://www.history-map.com/picture/003/ ... -March.htm
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: mr1precision On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:23 pm

That looked like Obama's vision for America.... :o
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:26 pm

"Orders of George Washington to General John Sullivan, at Head-Quarters May 31, 1779
The Expedition you are appointed to command is to be directed against the hostile tribes of the Six Nations of Indians, with their associates and adherents. The immediate objects are the total destruction and devastation of their settlements, and the capture of as many prisoners of every age and sex as possible. It will be essential to ruin their crops now in the ground and prevent their planting more.
I would recommend, that some post in the center of the Indian Country, should be occupied with all expedition, with a sufficient quantity of provisions whence parties should be detached to lay waste all the settlements around, with instructions to do it in the most effectual manner, that the country may not be merely overrun, but destroyed.
But you will not by any means listen to any overture of peace before the total ruinment of their settlements is effected. Our future security will be in their inability to injure us and in the terror with which the severity of the chastisement they receive will inspire them.[4]"

the last statement is powerful... :|
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:33 pm

mr1precision wrote:That looked like Obama's vision for America.... :o




:D

sad tho.... he don't have half the .... that ole wood teeth George had ;)
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:43 pm

outstanding post PE :)
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:19 pm

The sad thing is that stuff like that can be filmed all over our country also kind of eerie being the date on that clip was 9-11-93. Does anyone know why it was shut down, looked like an awfully large concern was there a mine there as well?
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:25 pm

I used to play in that breaker when I was a kid. :)
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:14 pm

I lived one block from there. Funny how its all new houses now.
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:26 pm

That building looks like MA's manufacturing base. Completely abandoned ... or turned into a cul-de-sac full of mansions & Range Rovers.
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: samhill On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 10:58 pm

In looking up information on that one I found another simular, the name escapes me right now but it was the one famous for the blue coal.
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: freetown fred On: Wed Dec 01, 2010 11:00 pm

Steel not Coal--everytime I go see the kids I cruise into Bethleham & see where they've got a friggin casino in part of the old steel mill---SAD :x
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:20 am

samhill wrote:In looking up information on that one I found another simular, the name escapes me right now but it was the one famous for the blue coal.


That would be the Huber and the only one left in the Wyoming Valley that is really old. They want to make it into a museum but with money the way it is it may not survive either. I think the Sullivan Trail Breaker was last one to go. Probably some time in the mid nineties.
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:39 am

OK Richard thats the one, from the pictures I would say thats a lost cause. On the site for it they showed the guy thats heading the fight to restore her & he gave a tour, even for an old steelworker it looks a bit too far gone to be taking people thru. There must be quite a few ton of coal laying all around the inside from what I could see.
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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:59 am

Looks bad but there is nothing structurally wrong with it, quite the opposite. The Sullivan one pictured in the original post was much older and used sporadically up into the 80's some time. No raw product to feed it and little demand anyway. When they imploded the Harry E. a lot of it remained intact.

http://www.undergroundminers.com/harry.html

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Re: Sullivan's Trail

PostBy: New Hope Engineer On: Thu Dec 09, 2010 8:32 pm

freetown fred wrote:Steel not Coal--everytime I go see the kids I cruise into Bethleham & see where they've got a friggin casino in part of the old steel mill---SAD :x

dont forget the big hotel thats going up now! ;)
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