W i k i l e a k s

coalnewbie · By: **coalnewbie** On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:32 am

I don't have a dog in this hunt. Love him or arrest him but don't tell me what to read there is a thing called The Constitution. There are two ways to stop him dead in his tracks. Firstly, just laugh at him and tell the world hey, we have freedom of speech say whatever and go after the guys that leaked this stuff. Secondly, make govt transparent and get rid of the idiots that run the place. Ask any kindergarten teacher - ban a website and now EVERYBODY wants to read it and you have created a monster. Kill him and you have created a martyr. That is human nature 101 - to sell a coal stove - leak out hush hush photos on this board or a store or restaurant is a "best kept secret". If a product is really a best kept secret then the marketing dept are morons. Want to sell a car? Call it a limited edition but if I want to buy a million of them that would be no problem. We are governed by idiots.

A mirror:

http://mirror.infoboj.eu/

Don't tell me what to do - pass a law and I will respect it but it had better be constitutional. You want to block Wiki now - you don't think that every govt and terrorist on the planet has already read it? The main reason for the outrage now is the upcoming exposure of the banksters that's the real deal as to how the boyz are giving away trillions or our money. That revelation could cause a revolution and it is about time. When did Washington ever care if a few of our finest got killed.

Richard S. · By: **Richard S.** On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:02 am

Wikileaks has been under a DOS attack, or denial of service attack. While it's possible the US government could be behind it there is plenty of people that could perpetrate it, even that pimply teenager next door . I'll give an overview of the basics of how such an attack works. There is what they call a Bot Net. These would be computers that a hacker has been able to gain control of, usually these are residential machines inside peoples homes connected to high speed networks. Someone that controls one of these bot nets may control thousands or even hundreds of thousands of machines. The hacker is able to send directions to the computers, one common thing they might be used for is sending spam. Another is a DOS attack where the hacker will direct all the machines to bombard a server with requests, the server becomes overwhelmed and cannot fill the requests for pages. There's a longer narrative here about a DOS attack on security experts site.

http://www.crime-research.org/library/grcdos.pdf
Nothing more than the whim of a 13-year
old hacker is required to knock any user,
site, or server right off the Internet.

jpete · By: **jpete** On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:13 am

I'm not sure I see the point behind this latest release. It appears to just serve to embarrass those involved.

I don't think the various countries were surprised to find out everybody is spying on everybody trying to get a leg up. Or that they speak freely and poorly about their counterparts.

What I want to know, and what I haven't heard is why government computers aren't very secure.

Pfc Manning was supposed to be an intel analyst for battle field reports in Iraq. WTF was he doing on a State Department server? It seems the State used the military server but geez, you'd think it would be slightly more secure.

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:15 am

From some of what I heard after 9-11 there was a push on for better communication between the services & different Gov. dept.s but in their haste someone never bothered to put in checks. As for the Pfc., when I was in the army a Pfc. rank wouldn`t have access to much of anything. When I was doing some dirty deeds I wasn`t even allowed to seal my letters home, no computers back then or cell phones. There were relatively few of us with clearences in those days now theres hundreds of thousands, what ever happened to being on a need to know basis.

freetown fred · By: **freetown fred** On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:18 am

well,hell sam--according to wikileaks---everybody needs to know---YOU COULDN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH--somebody said that in some movie or another :lol:

Richard S. · By: **Richard S.** On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:34 pm

Split unrelated posts to trash.

Stay on topic, while topics will wander in the general forums we want to keep them strictly on topic in this forum.

RAYJAY · By: **RAYJAY** On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:24 pm

If its a DOS attack the first thing that comes to mind is /b/ .....

coalnewbie · By: **coalnewbie** On: Sun Dec 05, 2010 11:22 pm

Pimply teenagers do not pull domain names. Name another domain where this has happened Richard. The campaign of vilification only got going once he threatened to expose the banksters and the trillions they have been stealing. So again I say

http://213.251.145.96/

This is not a simple DOS attack it is govt conspired. So grab the peanuts this is going to be a good show.

Yanche · By: **Yanche** On: Mon Dec 06, 2010 1:32 am

coalnewbie wrote:Pimply teenagers do not pull domain names. Name another domain where this has happened Richard.

All computers are susceptible to exploits, including the ones that make up the distributed database called the Domain Name System (DNS). Those that do it are highly skilled and know the DNS hardware and software well. Just do a search on "DNS hacking" for lots of examples.

Richard S. · By: **Richard S.** On: Mon Dec 06, 2010 6:33 am

coalnewbie wrote:Pimply teenagers do not pull domain names. Name another domain where this has happened Richard. The campaign of vilification only got going once he threatened to expose the banksters and the trillions they have been stealing. So again I say

http://213.251.145.96/

This is not a simple DOS attack it is govt conspired. So grab the peanuts this is going to be a good show.

The situation changed since then but companies are doing this and certainly the possibility exists under pressure from the US government.

Guess you might expect that when you release SECRET documents.

I have no sympathy for Mr. Assange, like it or not secrets are a necessary function of our government and this is an assault on our government.

Yanche wrote:All computers are susceptible to exploits, including the ones that make up the distributed database called the Domain Name System (DNS). Those that do it are highly skilled and know the DNS hardware and software well. Just do a search on "DNS hacking" for lots of examples.

Not sure which because I haven't looked it up but either the registrar for wikileaks.org or the company hosting the nameservers dropped them. There is no way to direct anyone to the right IP when they type in wikileaks.org . It's not a conspiracy as some would have you believe, these companies decided to no longer provide them services. Simple as that. Paypal who was offering them services for donations and Amazon who was hosting their site did the same thing.

freetown fred · By: **freetown fred** On: Mon Dec 06, 2010 7:28 am

Hopeing this isn't off topic--BUT--while in the Nam--all the zipperheads had to do was turn on CNN to find out what we were going to do the next day--it was a no win situation--there are things that have to be kept quiet & somebody ought to bitch slap this bleeding heart egg sucker--- :mad:

I'm glad some of his site sponsers got there heads out of thier butts

Richard S. · By: **Richard S.** On: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:59 am

List of facilities 'vital to US security' leaked

'Targets for terror'

The geographical range of the document on installations is extraordinary, our correspondent says.

If the US sees itself as waging a "global war on terror" then this represents a global directory of the key installations and facilities - many of them medical or industrial - that are seen as being of vital importance to Washington.

Some locations are given unique billing. The Nadym gas pipeline junction in western Siberia, for example, is described as "the most critical gas facility in the world".

Public disclosure of this is important to anyone in which way? There is no justification for the release of this information, none. This isn't political stuff, it isn't anything that could be deemed damaging to the US... it's a laundry list of potential targets for someone that might want to damage US interests.

Hollyfeld · By: **Hollyfeld** On: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:12 am

RAYJAY wrote:If its a DOS attack the first thing that comes to mind is /b/ .....

They are Anonymous and they are Legion, and I think they would support Wikileaks.

coalnewbie · By: **coalnewbie** On: Mon Dec 06, 2010 9:53 am

As I said at the start, I don't have a dog in this hunt. As a non military man I would not presume to debate the potential harm here. However, does anybody not think it a little strange that pvt Manning got all this stuff on his own nobody sees him as a fall buy with darker clouds behind him. As I said I see the banksters behind this. Even Henry Ford said "If people knew how the banks handled our money there would be rioting on the streets". I smell a Rothschild behind all this and if all the BOA stuff comes to light look for a major false flag.

samhill · By: **samhill** On: Mon Dec 06, 2010 10:17 am

I also believe that there are higher ups involved, like I said in my post that was deleted when I had my clearences I wasn`t even allowed to seal my mail, it was all gone thru before being sent. Heck I went to last months Linesville Hysterical Society meeting & just earlier that day Westinghouse got to release some of their information on the torpedos that they tested in the lake here during WW2 & other parts are still classified. There are a lot of things that any enemies just don`t need to know.

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