Professional Install

Professional Install

PostBy: ijp66 On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:01 pm

Hi, I have a Hyfire II. This is my 2nd season with it. I have it ducted into my cold air return but dont think it is hooked up properly. Does anyone know of an installer that would hook it up properly?

I live in Palmerton, PA 18071.

Thanks.
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Stove/Furnace Make: leisure line
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:08 pm

Why don;t you think it's installed correctly? Give some details, we can probably help you out.

Is it not heating properly? Did you clean it out good since last season? etc....
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: ijp66 On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:36 pm

I cleaned it all out.
See I bought the stove because it could be ducted. The warm air barely comes out of the vents or returns upstairs.
It starts up fine and runs great. It heats my basement up nice and if I leave the door open to the 1st fl some warm air comes up.
My brother in-law did the install and i think he "kinda" did it right.

The pipe that comes from the top of the stove/hot airjacket gets hot but I dont know how to get the hot air through the duct work.

So I figured I would see what could be done because honestly I'm not the best at this stuff.

Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 9:46 pm

I would look at a few things to see where you might be losing the heat...
Are the seams taped in the ductwork or are they leaky
Does your ductwork run through a colder space that is sucking the heat from it
Since you say you are running it into a cold air return, Is the air not being lost in the duct work itself, but by cooling too much as it runs through your air handler on the furnace

It may be a combination of these things which could be addressed separately.
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:04 pm

Are you using your furnace blower to move the heat thru the ducts? Or just the blowers on the stove?

The stove blowers are only 265 CFM x 2 that is only 530 CFM, most furnace blowers are at least 1500CFM to move the air.
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: ijp66 On: Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:20 pm

WNY wrote:Are you using your furnace blower to move the heat thru the ducts? Or just the blowers on the stove?

The stove blowers are only 265 CFM x 2 that is only 530 CFM, most furnace blowers are at least 1500CFM to move the air.

I turned my furnace blower on and the air is cool when it comes out. The house actually gets colder....
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Stove/Furnace Make: leisure line
Stove/Furnace Model: hyfire II

Re: Professional Install

PostBy: Matthaus On: Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:10 pm

Is your unit hooked up something like the attached? If so we have some enhanced suggestions such as using both 265 cfm fans along with your furnace fan, plus you can install a damper on the cold air return side to limit the mount of cold air you pull in and mix with the hot air out put. Make sure you don't deliver air above the manufacturers' recommended temp for your furnace fan, else it will fail prematurely. You can also plug up the air inlets on either side of the HAJ to limit the cold air being pulled out of the basement. The ideal situation is to connect flex duct to the inlets on the 265 cfm fans on the Hyfire to pull air from the cold air return instead of the basement.

Keep us posted we can surely solve your issue by better utilizing the 180,000 input btu of nice steady coal heat you have at your disposal!
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: ijp66 On: Tue Dec 07, 2010 6:56 pm

Matthaus wrote:Is your unit hooked up something like the attached? If so we have some enhanced suggestions such as using both 265 cfm fans along with your furnace fan, plus you can install a damper on the cold air return side to limit the mount of cold air you pull in and mix with the hot air out put. Make sure you don't deliver air above the manufacturers' recommended temp for your furnace fan, else it will fail prematurely. You can also plug up the air inlets on either side of the HAJ to limit the cold air being pulled out of the basement. The ideal situation is to connect flex duct to the inlets on the 265 cfm fans on the Hyfire to pull air from the cold air return instead of the basement.

Keep us posted we can surely solve your issue by better utilizing the 180,000 input btu of nice steady coal heat you have at your disposal!

Thats the same diagram the dealer gave me with the stove.
I tried to fire it up today and it looks like I have another problem. The blowers are not working. Everything is plugged in but not hot air is coming out.
I have the coal-trol on and set but no coal seems to be feeding. This is a new one to me.
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Stove/Furnace Model: hyfire II

Re: Professional Install

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:08 pm

First, check for power/fuse blown, etc... Then, Check to make sure in your MENU setup, the IGN? (Ignition) is set to "N" or something like that. Otherwise, the blowers, feeder do not come on, because it's thinks it is in the Auto Ignition mode to ignite the coal...
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:52 pm

ijp66 wrote:
Matthaus wrote:Is your unit hooked up something like the attached? If so we have some enhanced suggestions such as using both 265 cfm fans along with your furnace fan, plus you can install a damper on the cold air return side to limit the mount of cold air you pull in and mix with the hot air out put. Make sure you don't deliver air above the manufacturers' recommended temp for your furnace fan, else it will fail prematurely. You can also plug up the air inlets on either side of the HAJ to limit the cold air being pulled out of the basement. The ideal situation is to connect flex duct to the inlets on the 265 cfm fans on the Hyfire to pull air from the cold air return instead of the basement.

Keep us posted we can surely solve your issue by better utilizing the 180,000 input btu of nice steady coal heat you have at your disposal!

Thats the same diagram the dealer gave me with the stove.
I tried to fire it up today and it looks like I have another problem. The blowers are not working. Everything is plugged in but not hot air is coming out.
I have the coal-trol on and set but no coal seems to be feeding. This is a new one to me.
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Are the combustion blowers running ?
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: ijp66 On: Tue Dec 07, 2010 9:33 pm

I dont think so, how do I know if they are running? (stupid question)
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:10 pm

ijp66 wrote:I dont think so, how do I know if they are running? (stupid question)



They are the 2 fans on the feeder with the cords w blue wire ties .
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:11 pm

Did you install the fuse ? It is taped to the top of the module .
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Re: Professional Install

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:54 pm

Are you still using the power vent ????

If so, maybe the fume switch needs to be reset...............



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