Rick 386 wrote:In the winter months, I always keep a few hundred pounds of rice in the back of the truck for weight. It helps offset the weight of the plow on the front and gives traction to the rear wheels. IF I get stuck on ice, a few handfulls of rice under the tires and instant traction.
I keep it there all season. If the bin gets a little low and the delivery is questionable, no problem it's already on my truck.
If it snows on top of it, no problem.
At the end of the season, it gets dumped into the bin for spring time burning.
NEVER HAPPEN WITH PELLETS !!!!
But Rick, I don't have a pickup truck or a plow, and I never get stuck.
Ant-tracks Coal for me is NINE bucks a bag Good residential Bit is 6 to 16 hours away. That trip would add at least 50 bucks a ton to bulk delivery if the stars and moon could align.
Its all about what you got and what you can get and then you just deal with it.
1. My Uncle has the software to do an energy audit (using the size of rooms, windows, insulation, siding, etc) to determine the needed btu's. I just need to run around and measure everything.
2. I'm thinking the stoker might be the way to go at this point,
IF I get stuck on ice, a few handfulls of rice under the tires and instant traction.
Rick 386 wrote:Yep, neither did this guy:
medukonis wrote:Good afternoon:
I can only speak from my experience. I run both, a harman pellet stove upstairs and a harman hand fed coal stove down in the basement. Both are inserts. The pellet stove is very easy to use but it requires electricity to run the fans and other moving parts. The pellet stove at 40,000 BTU output can keep about 1200 of our 1750 sq/ft first floor warm. It will not heat all rooms. The coal stove at 80,000 BTUs easily heats the finished basement which is also 1750 sq/ft. The pellet stove is definitely easier to operate. I fill with 40lbs and it goes 24 hours plus. Shut it down once a week to vacuum it out and empty the ash pan. You could easily go longer between cleanings it's just a habit of mine. There is also a nice tax rebate if you can get it before the end of the year.
Our coal stove requires twice per day feeding, shakedown, and empty but compared to the wood insert we used to have which required feeding every hour or so,. the coal stove is an absolute blessing and the best investment we made. Last year I was not able to do anything in the basement because it was so cold. The only way to heat it would be to start a wood fire or run the propane forced air furnace $$$. Now the entire basement is 74 degrees. The coal has almost double the energy. I will be the first to admit that I do not know anything about stokers but I firmly believe you can not go wrong with coal especially if you have a source withing a reasonable distance. I am suspect of your friend's claim that he heats 2100 sq/ft with a pellet stove unless it is a very large one and his home is extremely well insulated. Or he lives in Florida Good luck!
cntbill wrote:I had a pellet stove a few years ago installed in our basement, while I don't remember what the BTU rating was on it, it was rated to heat 1500 sq.ft.. In the middle of the second season with it pellets were hard to find in my area, and the places that did have them were limiting the amount of bags you could purchase at one time. I happen to be checking pellet prices on line of the one place that did sell me some previously and I noticed they were also selling bags of coal. So I got wondering "why are they selling 50 lbs bags of coal?" and then thinking "well I am somewhat in the coal region" and then started checking out information on coal and coal stoves, and stumbled on this site. Got to say one of the best places I ever came across on the internet!
So I when I went to get some pellets I was looking at some of the coal stoves they had and was quite impressed, they carry Leisure Line. So not wanting to abandon my pellet stove right away I went and found a VC Vigilant for a good price and installed that in the other side of the basement just to see how I would like it. OK the Vigilant was a little more of a learning curve, and a little more work than the pellet stove, But WoW what a difference in heat ! The pellet stove never got our house over 68* at full bore, the Vigilant on the low setting kept the house at 72*-74* and the heat was nice, felt more even. Another thing I liked about the Vigilant (and one of the reasons I picked up the Resolute) is that the size coal it uses is easy to find and lots of times you can find people selling pea and nut cheep or giving it away.
Now we have a Keystoker, 70,000 btu's, thermostat controlled, just as simple to run as a pellet stove, but this Keystoker puts out just as much heat and a bit more then the Vigilant and really only requires tending every other day, but I do it once a day just in case, ashes go the same place, the trash and like the above post I have no worries if I leave the coal out in truck and it rains
Plan and simple - I will never go back to a pellet stove as long as coal is available
Sting wrote:Ant-tracks Coal for me is NINE bucks a bag Good residential Bit is 6 to 16 hours away. That trip would add at least 50 bucks a ton to bulk delivery if the stars and moon could align.
I have a neighbor who has 2 pellet inserts heating around 2000 sq. ft.(well insulated) 1 in the basement and the other in his living room. He burns 7-8 tons of pellets per year to maintain a 68-70 degree temp in his house.
Well Sting the obvious solution here is get a tractor trailer load.
Wood'nCoal wrote:Does he insist that pellets are "Great" or has he seen the light
WessWackos wrote:. Does anyone know what a new LL Pioneer costs NEW?
5. I was thinking that if I did a stoker, maybe I could hook it up to help heat our hot water.