Got my new stove!!!

Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:41 am

Here is another pic showing the baro. Its probably a bad picture I took it with my cell phone. But it should it better than in my other pics.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:04 am

It seems the MPD restricts the draft by keeping heat in the stove and lowering the exhaust temp


The MPD restricts the draft to the appliance by partially obstructing the stove pipe. :idea: Keeping heat in the stove and lowering the exhaust temperature is the result of the obstruction.

I know it is an ongoing argument (LOL).


That it is. :roll:
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: budster On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:13 am

..fire that sucker up..I try to keep mine at 450*..it's wind chill factor 9* outside here today..might try to get mine up to 500*..when ya get these blue flames from the over-fire vents going, you'll be warm.. :dancing:

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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: JB Sparks On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:17 am

Is the mpd too close to the baro on IOF's hook up? He has them mounted in the same Tee. I'm just thinking during warmer weather and at the angle he is showing the mpd in the picture, he could possibly dump CO into the house. What does everybody else think about this?
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: Chuck_Steak On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:21 am

Seems like you are making these small adjustments trying to get it up to 70...
I agree, work the other way.... :idea:
Crank that sucka UP... get it warmer than you want, and go down.
We know that coal is very slow to react, just crank it.
What's the downside? you get TOO warm?? :?
Then you'll really feel the difference between the two stoves.
Dan
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 11:24 am

I guess I am working backwards. The dial is up to 5 now.

I wanted to see where it settled at each setting. I suppose that's kind of a "Does it matter if I'm still cold"? situation.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:03 pm

Well, I opened it up and within 20 minutes it was 500*. Another 10 minutes went by and I looked again and it was 600*. So the dial got readjusted do hopefully stop it from climbing, because it was still going up in temp. So it's now set at 450* and the stove temp reads 500*.

At 600* I had a lot of blue flames. At 500* not so much, more hopping around than anything.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: lobsterman On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:24 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:Well, I opened it up and within 20 minutes it was 500*. Another 10 minutes went by and I looked again and it was 600*. So the dial got readjusted do hopefully stop it from climbing, because it was still going up in temp. So it's now set at 450* and the stove temp reads 500*.

At 600* I had a lot of blue flames. At 500* not so much, more hopping around than anything.


Also you might mention where you are measuring the temp, i.e. near the firebox or near the top? In my Chubby, for example when it is purring along like it is now, it is 480 near the firepot but only 330 on top.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:49 pm

I am taking my measurement at the top of the stove just behind the Hopper door.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: lobsterman On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:02 pm

So you maybe a lot hotter than you think compared to other posted DS temps. Just something to consider.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 2:08 pm

Yeah. I'm learning that no matter where you take your temps on the stove its always an approximation of how hot it really is. I've noticed that as well with the thermometer on my furnace T-Stat. It is currently reading 75* but when I throw the laser in the general vicinity of the T-Stat it shows 72*.

Oh, and yes, my MPD is in the same "T" as my baro. I have plans on changing it. I haven't been using the MPD much as it is anyway.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:22 pm

It is all relative...
So long as you are using the same heat measuring device in the same location...
You can tell if your stove/house is running hotter or colder...
So you got the house over 70*... :D
Now it is 75*...
What temp was the stove running at to do this...
If it was 350-400* you still got more heat that you can squeeze from the stove...
So when it gets colder and/or the wind kicks up you can still maintain a warm house...
The temp on top behind the hopper door is pretty close to the temp just above the glass on my DSM Basement #4...
I have 5 mag thermometer on the stove...
1 above the baro, 1 below the MPD an 3 on the stove...
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:53 pm

It was actually around 460*. That's where the stove has been idling all day. I've only got two thermometers on the stove. One on it and one about 12" up the stack past the baro. But I do have the laser that I will randomly hit in different spots.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:13 pm

Keeping the house warm...
Nice...
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:56 pm

Yup. Stove is idling between 470* and 500*. House is 74* in the living room and 65* in my bedroom. My son's room is 70* and the kitchen is 65*.

The heat wasn't getting into the master bedroom so I put a small pancake fan on the floor by the door and both my wife and I can feel the cold air coming out of the bedroom and being replaced by warm air.

The problem, I can't leave the fan there over night. We'll trip on it. So, I need to come up with a more permanent way to keep the fan there. Maybe in the wall with some 4" duct work.
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