Got my new stove!!!

Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:47 pm

You need to hit 550* to set the paint... ;)
No mention of any smoke issues when it fired up...
Has it gotten over 400* yet...
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:51 pm

Yes, it broke 600* for a little over an hour when I first fired it up. It also managed to set off my fire alarm. Because I forgot to disconnect my smoke detectors before firing it up.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Jan 08, 2011 10:54 pm

Good...
Paint is set...
No middle of the night smoking paint alarms...
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Jan 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Very good,wondered how your install and bake-off went today. You are going to be thrilled with your DS....My Wing Man from work and I went to see Krist and his DS Machine Stove line over on Rt 88 in West Farmington yesterday....Didn't want to leave..Hell of a hand-fired...He was burning Pea instead of Nut in it. Amazing the way the heat rolled off that circulator. Loved the cast iron top loading hopper that was easily removed when need be. Take your time and enjoy the warmth.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: coal berner On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:08 am

JB Sparks wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:No one was this excited when I was installing the EFM....
Yes we were John, but just figured JC was putting enough pressure on you. :P :)

Well if you know John like I know him there was a many reason why I kept on him to get it hooked up The biggest reason was I was sick of him buying a few gals of oil every week for a little heat and hot water when he had a coal fired stoker boiler sitting next to the oil fire hot air furnace there was a method to my madness .
John's a good friend of mine so I had to keep him motivated and to try to save him some cash in the process ;)
The only problem now since he hooked it up is I trying to stop him from going down to the basement every 15 minutes to check it over and watch it work :P
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: JB Sparks On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:54 am

JC, If you pushed the man to get that big job of installing his EFM350 done then you are a good friend in deed. As far as stopping him from going down to check the boiler every 15 minutes, good luck!! After 3 years of burning coal I'm still checking out the boiler frequently, can't get over what a beautiful job coal does in heating my home and DHW. My only regret has been, not switching to coal during the first oil crunch back in the 70's.

JB
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:36 am

Good morning IOF,

The $64,000 question is...... How warm is your house and is it more comfortable away form the room with the DSM 1600. :?:
How many times did you get up in the night to check the new stove?

Good luck with the DSM and thanks for all the pics.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Estate Heatrola, Jotul 507

Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: Adamiscold On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:03 am

It's after 8 in the morning did IOF loose his Internet connection or something? :P



Nice install looks great! :)
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Stove/Furnace Make: Chubby Sr. Old School

Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:25 am

No Adam, I was typing my reply at 8 when you posted. ;) That and I wanted to "sleep" in since the stove holds more coal I felt I didn't need to get up at exactly 12 hours to shake it down.

Its now 0800 (Hour 16.5) on first burn. I got up about 3 times to check the stove. Last time was at 0330. I noticed my fans were set incorrectly and that the furthest point in the living room was only showing 67*. My bedroom at that time was 60* my son's room was 60* and the kitchen/dining room was 59*. Furnace never came on. There was a slight breeze outside I'm not sure of the outside temps though but I'd imagine cold. Stove was idling at 300* at 0300. MPD was closed part way until about 0300 when I opened it.

Both my living room ceiling fans were set to draw the heat up but were on the low setting. I readjusted them to medium. I also bumped the stove to 4 at that time. I went back to bed. My daughter woke up at 0400 so I got up to make her a bottle and I peaked at the thermostat on the wall on the far side of the living room (closest to my bedroom) and saw that it was reading 70.5.

I just shook down the stove now (0800) noticed that the stove didn't really consume much coal throughout the night. Probably because I still have not found the perfect setting. My goal for today is to get the house past the 70* mark. I have a funny feeling that since I'm also trying to heat a bunch of wasted/unused space in my kitchen and living room I may need to go above 4 on the dial. I may even need to move the chain up as well.

The next thing on the docket is to also remove the decorative cover so that I can put a pot of water on the stove. But I want to make some sort of a "Hot-Plate" to put it on so I'm not messing the top of the stove up. Probably make it out of some aluminum diamond plate and angle iron.

Right now the living room is 68* stove is 400* (because I just shook it down and topped the hopper off). It is currently 24* out with a NNW wind at 9mph which makes it feel like 14*.

In retrospect, I guess the 68* at 400* isn't terrible considering the outside ambient temps. I just readjusted the dial on the stove to hopefully compensate for the wind chill to 4.25. Looking at the weather for today it looks like the winds will pick up throughout the day (1-2 mph per hour.)

And no, sorry there still are no blue ladies dancing around. Well, there are but only at the very back of the stove because there is a lot of exposed red coals. I only get them "jumping" from time to time across the whole coal pile. Which is disappointing. I wanted to change my avatar to the blue flames of coal burning as opposed to the yellow flames of Cowboy Coal burning. :(

I figure by the end of today I should have the stove and the house where I want it. I'm back in learning curve mode with the new stove.

OH!! NINJA EDIT!!

I have noticed one thing though. With the Chubby the Kimmel's nut coal I've been burning wouldn't burn completely up and I had a lot of ashes. It is a completely different animal in the DS. I noticed when I shook down (I pulled and pushed on the handle a total of 10 times) this morning that there wasn't very much ash and I only had a few pieces of coal fall down. I'm not sure if its because the stove is a lot more efficient or if its something I'm doing now. Though, I haven't really done much. Just fill it up.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:44 am

Stove was idling at 300* at 0300. MPD was closed part way until about 0300 when I opened it.

Leave the MPD open, you don't need it. With an airtight stove like yours there is no reason to use a MPD. The baro damper, when set properly, will control the draft perfectly. All the MPD is doing is limiting the draft to the stove, as a matter of fact it probably is dropping the draft too low when the wind isn't blowing outside.

The only problem now since he hooked it up is I trying to stop him from going down to the basement every 15 minutes to check it over and watch it work :P


I haven't been down there to check it today...yet.
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: YZF1R On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:47 am

I've been following your thread and I'm glad it's working out for you. The install looks great!

Steve
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: lobsterman On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:01 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:
Stove was idling at 300* at 0300. MPD was closed part way until about 0300 when I opened it.

Leave the MPD open, you don't need it. With an airtight stove like yours there is no reason to use a MPD. The baro damper, when set properly, will control the draft perfectly. All the MPD is doing is limiting the draft to the stove, as a matter of fact it probably is dropping the draft too low when the wind isn't blowing outside.

The only problem now since he hooked it up is I trying to stop him from going down to the basement every 15 minutes to check it over and watch it work :P


I haven't been down there to check it today...yet.


Fire: Congrats on your very manly looking new stove. You may want to try a big cast iron tea kettle on top. Indestructible and the humidity makes your room feel more comfortable.

Wood: It seems the MPD restricts the draft by keeping heat in the stove and lowering the exhaust temp, a very good thing, while the baro reduces draft at the expense of taking warm air out of the room. I know it is an ongoing argument (LOL).
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:24 am

Congrats IOF, nice piece of equipment you've got there!!! I'm sure that DS will make the wife happy!!!

I do however have some concern regarding the baro... Someone else had mentioned it earlier on (think it was JC) that the opening appears to be smacked up against the right side fireplace wall... I zoomed in on the photos and indeed it is against the wall and noted the position of the vent piping in relation to the fireplace opening before/after flue outlet connection and it appears to have not moved away from the wall at all... You stated that it is about 10 inches away from the wall but I just don't see it!!! If it is against the wall it will not function properly and you know the results in that case... Just want to be sure that it is as functional as it can be otherwise there is no sense in having it at all...
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Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska/Franco Belge/Harman
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Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:29 am

I actually just took the decorative top cover off so I can use my big cast iron kettle. I still want to make some sort of a hot-plate for it though. I have hard water so I get lime deposits on the kettle and had them on the stove from the kettle dripping on it. I'm going to make a Lowe's Run this morning to buy some diamond plate, angle iron and some SS bolts to make it.

I've also finally gotten some blue ladies dancing around too.

Oh, as for the MPD I don't close it all the way. I only close it a quarter of the way. Last time I closed it all the way on this stove (yesterday afternoon) I did lose my draft.

But then again, my manometer is hooked up before the MPD at the stove.

Murdoc1,

I assure you, the baro is 10 inches from the side wall. Its in the same exact location as it was on the Chubby. It is smack dab in the middle of the fireplace. I'll take another picture from a different angle to show you.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: Got my new stove!!!

PostBy: MURDOC1 On: Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:34 am

I'm On Fire wrote:I assure you, the baro is 10 inches from the side wall. Its in the same exact location as it was on the Chubby. It is smack dab in the middle of the fireplace. I'll take another picture from a different angle to show you.


My appology IOF, I must have looked at those photos 10 times yesterday and never did catch the last photo on page 5 (just went back and looked at them again) does clearly show that the baro is well away from the wall... Again, my appology... If I ever need someone to handle some 'trick photography' would you be interested!!!
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