I need help with new feed motor.

I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: campbeach On: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:08 pm

I replaced the feed motor on my Pioneer and I can not get it to light. It is blowing air under the coal but it won't take off. I used two starter kits and am back to my propane torch. They told me the motor would run a little faster so adjust the carpet but does not seem to work.

What do you think.
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:52 pm

Well,I'm no master of the Pioneer stove,but here goes...1.) I'm presuming you've replaced a primary combustion air fan motor. Is there an air control shutter or plate which can throttle the air flow up or down manually like on my Harman ? If there is,try reducing the air flow by half until you're able to create a good seat of fire and hot coals to manually introduce coal in on top of that bed. 2.)Have your coal feed off until you can get this going,then turn it back on and bring the rate up gradually. Again,I've got a Harman Stoker,not an LL. I figure ,though, that getting your stove lit off should be similar. Let us know.
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:07 pm

If you are using the CoalTrol, make sure the IGN = OFF in the menu, if you had it shutdown, otherwise the blower will not be on.

YOu need to bury the Starter bag in a mound of coal in the Center of the grate, where the holes are.
Start it, let it burn for a 30second-1 minutes, Turn on Combustion Blower and it should start to get going.
Then turn on the stoker or plug it in.
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: campbeach On: Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:35 pm

I have been burning this stove for 2 years with no problem but now with this new motor I think my fan was sized for the slower speed and may be putting to much air to the coal. I have tried with the feed motor on high and low settings. It seems like alot of air coming in.
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:45 pm

1. Do you have a Coaltrol or Rheostat for controls?

2. Is the combustion blower running and feeding air? The blower has nothing to do with the feed rate. Unless you have something wired wrong. If you are getting a lot of air, that is a GOOD thing. You need air for combustion.

3. Is it pushing the coals off the grate before you get it going? Did you adjust the feed rate as stated?

4. Is it Hardwired or does it have plugs on the Blower, stoker, etc...?
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Jan 11, 2011 5:19 am

campbeach wrote:I have been burning this stove for 2 years with no problem but now with this new motor I think my fan was sized for the slower speed and may be putting to much air to the coal. I have tried with the feed motor on high and low settings. It seems like alot of air coming in.



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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: campbeach On: Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:02 am

I got it burning today. With the speed of the new motor being faster I did not have the carpet adjusted right but it is burning fine right now and got the carpet where it needs to be.

Thanks for the help.
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: Bity454 On: Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:01 am

Is the combustion blower really a higher cfm than the original 45 cfm? If so i want one :yes: :yes: :yes:
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: Bity454 On: Tue Jan 11, 2011 4:48 pm

Unclear if it was the combustion blower or the carpet feed motor you replaced ?
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Re: I need help with new feed motor.

PostBy: campbeach On: Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:45 pm

They are both the same on my stove. The motor has a squirrl cage fan on the bottom that blows up thru the coal and the top of the motor has a rod that is hooked to the carpet and moves it in and out.
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