Advice on Franco Belge 10.1475

 
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Post by spiritartman » Sat. Feb. 14, 2015 1:03 pm

Hi there it's now 2015 - I am looking at a used Franco Belge coal stove model 10 1475 I was wondering if anyone had an opinion of this stove. Thanks.


 
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Post by franco b » Sat. Feb. 14, 2015 2:02 pm

spiritartman wrote:Hi there it's now 2015 - I am looking at a used Franco Belge coal stove model 10 1475 I was wondering if anyone had an opinion of this stove. Thanks.
The stoves are very efficient and very fast to tend. They are not large and the fire pot does not hold a great deal of coal so tending time at high output is 8 hours rather than 12 or more. Do not consider this stove if you need to heat more than about 1200 sq. ft. Stack temperature is low so I would not recommend installing in a fireplace on an outside wall. It may not draft well unless the chimney is lined.

 
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Post by spiritartman » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 9:18 am

Thanks for the insight - I need a stove for an 800 Square foot Cinder block cabin. I will have to get an Aluminum Chimney to run out the roof and not the wall will this model be okay for a straight upward Chimney. Also, the guy selling it is asking $200USD Is it true it weighs about 400lbs? I was actually planning on a Chubby Stove but for the price this one is tempting. Does the Franco Belge require electricity? I'm looking for something that does not. If you have any suggestions. I know the 800 square foot building is small but getting a very small stove would not be convenient I'm looking for something with at least 8 to 10 hrs burn time. What year is that Stove from? I'm thinking late 80's. Thanks.

 
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Post by franco b » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 9:43 am

spiritartman wrote:Thanks for the insight - I need a stove for an 800 Square foot Cinder block cabin. I will have to get an Aluminum Chimney to run out the roof and not the wall will this model be okay for a straight upward Chimney. Also, the guy selling it is asking $200USD Is it true it weighs about 400lbs? I was actually planning on a Chubby Stove but for the price this one is tempting. Does the Franco Belge require electricity? I'm looking for something that does not. If you have any suggestions. I know the 800 square foot building is small but getting a very small stove would not be convenient I'm looking for something with at least 8 to 10 hrs burn time. What year is that Stove from? I'm thinking late 80's. Thanks.
Yes, probably from the 1980s. Weight about 380 and not easy to use a hand truck on and too wide for most doorways. Doors and innards plus sheet metal easily stripped to lower weight. Chimney arrangement you stated would be perfect except you want double wall stainless. Needs no electricity.

Will easily go 10 to 12 hours at low output (20 pounds of coal per day).

The Chubby would be much better if you intend to burn wood. The Franco is more efficient and very much faster and easier to tend. The ash pan is large enough to go 24 hours before having to empty. Burns pea coal but can handle nut as well if need be.

 
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Post by spiritartman » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 11:30 am

What exactly do you mean when saying "faster and easier to tend" Well, if you had an 800ft cabin and could get an older Franco Belge as posted for $175.00 or a refurbished Chubby Stove for about 1,000 shipped which would you get? I'm just concerned about the weight I know the Chubby weighs the same but buying it here on Long Island than moving it down to SC - than moving it again to the Cabin. Seems like it will be very difficult to move the item around. I can buy one locally down there or have the Chubby ordered and shipped right to my door when time is right. Do you have any favorites as far as Stoves? How does the Chubby do burning only wood? Thanks again I really appreciated it.

 
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Post by franco b » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 12:19 pm

spiritartman wrote:What exactly do you mean when saying "faster and easier to tend" Well, if you had an 800ft cabin and could get an older Franco Belge as posted for $175.00 or a refurbished Chubby Stove for about 1,000 shipped which would you get? I'm just concerned about the weight I know the Chubby weighs the same but buying it here on Long Island than moving it down to SC - than moving it again to the Cabin. Seems like it will be very difficult to move the item around. I can buy one locally down there or have the Chubby ordered and shipped right to my door when time is right. Do you have any favorites as far as Stoves? How does the Chubby do burning only wood? Thanks again I really appreciated it.
The Franco has a hopper, thermostat, and ability to slice the grate, all of which the Chubby lacks. The ash pan is also much larger. It has to be tended more often at high output but that time is about a minute. You set the heat output with a dial and forget it. Recovery time is very fast. Needs no manual or barometric damper. Inconvenient to burn wood. Not recommended. Can be installed much close to combustibles than chubby.

The Chubby is much easier to move, Just put on hand truck and wheel it away. The grate on the Chubby needs a lot of shaking plus some poking from below. Air intake is manual. Tending time at least 15 minutes. Ash pan small and messy. Barometric damper recommended. Burns wood better than Franco but not like modern wood stove.

The Franco is hard to move because to put a hand truck under it conveniently it becomes too wide. On end becomes iffy.

You could also consider an antique Oak stove which will do better with wood, I would want one with triangular grates though like a Glenwood. A decent one for $1,000 with a lined fire pot rather than a chubby would be my choice for a cabin.

The Franco and the Chubby are so different that comparing is hard.

 
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Post by spiritartman » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 3:09 pm

Thank you again. Do you have any suggestions as to where purchase an Glenwood ? What State are you in? I'm on Long Island but moving to Rural SC next year. I did not like the way you have to poke the grate with the Chubby seemed a bit of a pain LOL. I may get the Franco but it depends on if I can move it into my Trailer if not I'll have to pass - I like the idea of the Glenwood Stove - do you have a specific model # in mind? Do you know anyone that refurbishes them? I guess I"ll pass on the Chubby - want something that burns long and efficient and the Barometric Damper seems like a pain - something a bit less maintenance would be better.


 
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Post by spiritartman » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 3:19 pm

Do you like the US Army Canon Stove?

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 3:27 pm

Franco isn't online right now, maybe I can help a little with your question.

Here is some reading material: Chubby or Army Cannon?

I don't think you will like the Army Cannon.

 
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Post by spiritartman » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 3:38 pm

Any reason you do not like the Cannon? there are not that many Glenwood Oak Stoves to be found. How do you like the "Reading" Pine model Coal stove? http://www.readingstove.com it seems like a pretty modern design but "heavy" and solid for $1,200 new it may be a good way to go - I had it narrowed down to the Reading Pine or the chubby but now maybe an older Glenwood. Don't want to break the bank either but do want something that is in excellent or at least refurbished condition. Thanks again -

 
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Post by spiritartman » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 3:42 pm

I will be doing an aluminum chimney going straight up to the roof now through the wall. I notice the Reading Pine has the vent coming out the back and not the top of the unit - would this design work? I was told that if one is going up through a roof with their Chimney they need a stove with the vent coming out the top of the unit not the back - please advise. Thanks

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 3:51 pm

Click on the blue letters: Chubby or Army Cannon?

It's a link to a discussion about the Army Cannon.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 3:58 pm

spiritartman wrote:I will be doing an aluminum chimney going straight up to the roof now through the wall. I notice the Reading Pine has the vent coming out the back and not the top of the unit - would this design work? I was told that if one is going up through a roof with their Chimney they need a stove with the vent coming out the top of the unit not the back - please advise. Thanks
I don't know why anyone would have said that. Just come off the back of the stove with a 'T' then go straight up through the roof. If going thru the wall to the outside of the house, the Reading stove would need just 2 elbows.

The Reading stove looks nice, and would heat your 800 sq. ft. nicely.

 
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Post by spiritartman » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 6:09 pm

The Chubby Stove Guy said I would need a Chubby Stove with the Top exit system not the one that comes out through the back so that is why I thought. As much as I like the Glenwood #6 and the way they are made to last a life time it seems the reading pine model may be the best bang for the buck - the Glenwood has a 95 percent efficiency apparently wonder what this Glenwood is rated as - Seems the Reading Pine would be a good fit for my space. You have been a great help.

 
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Post by SWPaDon » Sun. Feb. 15, 2015 6:17 pm

Glad we were able to help you.

Don't be a stranger, come back and read the forums and by all means ask all the questions you need to. Someone here will be more than happy to help you.


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