COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 1:42 pm

Hello everyone...It seems that over time the COMBUSTION (not convection) blower motor has become louder on my Alaska Channing III. It is about 9 years old now....It makes quite a noisy, constant 'hissing' sound now...it is not an air moving sound tho...I have made sure that the motor is clean, and that the plastic propeller blades are balanced and not dirty...
I'm thinking about replaceing the motor for lack of any other ideas, but I'm really not sure if this will help...so before I go that route, I'm looking for suggestions/comments and or other peoples' experiences with this issue..

Thanks!
Last edited by stoker_RI on Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:02 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 Boiler

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:17 pm

Don't know your equipment, but if it's a Fasco Shade Pole then you got plenty of good service from it.

Try a Dayton PSC motor blower w/ lifetime lubed ball bearings instead, it will serve you even better.
Quieter, cooler running, half the watts and more.

Perhaps a look at http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/ ... and
http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/PDF/dayton_dimensions.pdf
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:07 pm

Thanks for the reply, McGiever ....I'll check out those links... would you expect that I would find the name of my combustion motor somewhere on it?..before I go crawling around looking for it..lol

That looks like one heck of a set up you've got going there...I'd love to know what/how you did it!
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 Boiler

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Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:23 pm

Only chance of discovering the blower info short of laying eyes on it would be perhaps in the Operators Manual...unless someone else chimes in with it.

About my set-up...it's all posted here, started it back in June 2010.
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:40 pm

Yes..I hope someone does chime in with the info for the combustion motor...I have the SKU #, and was searching around on the Alaska web site(which leaves much to be desired), and there is no info about the part....

I looked at the links you provided, and unfortunately without the specs of my current motor, I'd be lost finding the right replacement/configuration....
stoker_RI
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 Boiler

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: dave brode On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:25 pm

RI,

They may not want to give you too much info, as it would reduce sales direct from them.

The Fasco fan on my new Kaa2 was noisey, maybe it was a shaded pole type? The PSC motor that I replaced it with is much smoother running.

These pics might help id yours;

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/vi ... talog=main

http://www.electricmotorwarehouse.com/dayton_blower.htm

Dave
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Coal Size/Type: rice anthracite

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:30 pm

Hi Dave..Thanks for the reply.

Here are 2 pics of the blower that is currently listed by someone on E-bay:
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That seller also describes the motor as follows:
"SKU2491 Alaska Stove paddle feed fan motor. Motor powers the combustion fan wheel (SKU2484) on the paddle feed system. One side of the motor is fan blade for cooling the motor and the other side has the shaft for sliding the plastic wheel onto."

-Thanks
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 Boiler

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: Bratkinson On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:11 pm

Although the combustion-air motor on my 2 yr old Channing III works very well, if I needed a replacement, I'd contact my dealer. I recall seeing just about all the replacement parts for my stove except the big steel box itself on their shelves. It might be a bit pricier than what I could get on ebay or mail-order from somewhere, but I'd have it in an hour (round trip time), not a couple of days or a week.

On my 'back burner' for possible summer stove chore is possibly replacing the fan assembly and bracket with some other 'controllable' fan that I could experiment with air-flow volume at different burn rates. But should I go that route, the original fan would become my backup fan.

Oh...by the way...according to my user manual that came with the stove, there is no indication of manufacturer, wattage, CFM, or anything else technical regarding the motors/fans used on the stove. Only the Dayton fan for convection air is marked with appropriate technical information...nothing on the combustion air fan/motor.
Bratkinson
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: McGiever On: Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:42 pm

stoker_RI wrote:Hi Dave..Thanks for the reply.

Here are 2 pics of the blower that is currently listed by someone on E-bay:
Conbustion3.jpg

Conbustion2.jpg


That seller also describes the motor as follows:
"SKU2491 Alaska Stove paddle feed fan motor. Motor powers the combustion fan wheel (SKU2484) on the paddle feed system. One side of the motor is fan blade for cooling the motor and the other side has the shaft for sliding the plastic wheel onto."

-Thanks


stoker_RI,

Is your Chan III a "paddle" stoker type? Or is it the older "carpet" stoker type?

BTW...That e-bay fan is a shaded pole motor...uses enough watts to make enough heat to need a extra fan to remove some excess heat...most shade poles are actually rated for "intermittent duty"...by adding the extra blades they are trying to get more like "continuous duty".
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: stoker_RI On: Fri Jan 21, 2011 10:56 am

McGiever...

I have always considered the stove to be a "paddle stoker", since there is a paddle bar attached to the auger motor that pushes the coal onto the "carpert" for burning...so since there is a 'paddle' and a 'carpet', I'm a little unsure of the distinction...it is def. not the old tri-burner type...there are sep. motors for combustion and the auger....I have replaced the auger motor three times, and a related piece of harware that 'strips out' a couple of times...when the auger pushes the coal, it moves fom about 8:00 then to 4:00, then revervses and repeats....

Concerning your comments about the fan: Thank You....what should I conclude from that, however? There is no extra fan to remove excess heat, yet it IS the actual replacement Alaska stove part..it is not a replacement....do you consider this design 'overkill' or a bad design? ....would a dif fan be better/more applicable? ...I'm assumming that you will answer yes....If you could explain why, that would be great...and then of course, that leads me back to the dilemma of how/where to find the proper retro-fit...

Thanks so much for your help!
stoker_RI
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: WL 110 Boiler

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:30 am

As I stated from the beginning, I'm not familiar w/ your unit.

Myself and other here have retrofitted the old tri-burners w/ better fans.

So, if an old tri-burner can be retrofitted, I would imagine yours could be also.

Fellow member here, Murdoc1, did just that to his Alaska Stoker and it may just of been originally setup like your Chan III.

Here's a link to Murdoc1's thread: My modified feeder
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: COMBUSTION blower replacement results for Channing III?

PostBy: leetbumble On: Mon Sep 29, 2014 7:25 pm

Any update on if/how the fan replacement went? Its been a few years...

Im looking into upgrading the motors/blowers on my Alaska chan3 because of noise. I wont do it until the motors die but I want to have replacements ready as things always break when there is four feet of snow on the ground.
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