It's Alive!

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:16 am

Wednesday Night: A 40 percent chance of snow. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 11. Southwest wind around 8 mph.

Thursday: Mostly cloudy, with a high near 16. West wind 7 to 10 mph.
Thursday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around -2. Northwest wind 7 to 11 mph.

Friday: Mostly sunny and cold, with a high near 10. West wind 8 to 11 mph.
Friday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 3. South wind around 6 mph.


Thursday night and Friday should be a good test. I am interested to see if the EFM can pull through it on 4 teeth.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:47 pm

I hear ya rob!! Going to put the New Yorker to the test also, We're gonna burn some coal this week, also a possible storm this weekend coming.
hotblast1357
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: StokerDon On: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:34 pm

If you can pull through that kind of weather on 4 teeth I will be amazed!

There is a limit to what you can achieve through heat storage and management, Isn't there?

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: BairMatic BMC-500 with Van Wert VA400 Stoker, Gentleman Janitor GJ-671/EFM S-15 stoker, Van Wert VA-600
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:39 pm

StokerDon wrote:If you can pull through that kind of weather on 4 teeth I will be amazed!

There is a limit to what you can achieve through heat storage and management, Isn't there?

-Don


My control system improvements will do nothing for the weather coming in a few days. There is no heat "stored" in the boiler when it is 0 and the wind is blowing the bbq off the deck...the heat goes into the house nearly as fast as the stoker can produce it. What would help is if I split the first floor into two zones...the wind blows the heat to one side anyway. :lol:

I am also hopeful that I will see a difference from the few extra insulation batts in the attic, some spray foam in drafty areas, some extra insulation on the boiler piping, and the excellent coal I got this year.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:23 am

I am claiming victory over the first round with old man winter. Last night around 7 pm was brutal, I think the stoker ran continuously for an hour, and then began to occasionally shut off. The wind gradually died down overnight. My porch thermometer showed -5 last night, and still does this morning...but with no wind this morning the boiler is hardly running.

Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:31 am

Good deal!!

The New Yorker combustion fan ran just about all night too, -6 here, god only knows what with the wind chill!
hotblast1357
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:40 am

It was pretty bad, I went out to my shop around 6:30 pm and just that 100' walk was enough to make my face burn.

I should add that I never touched the stoker, it is still set on 4 teeth. I thought about bumping it up so it wasn't running as much, but was curious to see if the house would hold 72 - and it did. If we had used a bunch of domestic hot water that may have been a different story, but overall I am pretty happy with the performance.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:55 am

Absolutely! For the size your heating and where it's at, the EFM is standing it's ground! I bumped my low limit from 155 to 175.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: 1984 Eshland S260
Coal Size/Type: anthracite pea
Other Heating: oil furnace

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Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:55 am

I think my porch thermometer is thrown off by the heat from the house. My car said -15 while the porch thermo read -5.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: StokerDon On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:42 am

Glad to hear your system pushed through that nasty, windy, cold night. Did it do this just on the EFM on 4 teeth? I am assuming the oil burner is not running.

-Don
StokerDon
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: BairMatic BMC-500 with Van Wert VA400 Stoker, Gentleman Janitor GJ-671/EFM S-15 stoker, Van Wert VA-600
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood

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PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:56 am

I am feeling pretty happy with my EFM,i have it set on 5 teeth,we had 8* this am & had 25+mph winds overnite & we stayed warm with no glitch. I don't have any timer & I can't tell from the house how long the stoker ran any given time nor am I going to stand in the boiler box for hrs to see what happens. Still heating 3 buildings + DHW. :D
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:08 am

StokerDon wrote:Glad to hear your system pushed through that nasty, windy, cold night. Did it do this just on the EFM on 4 teeth? I am assuming the oil burner is not running.

-Don


Correct. No need for the oil boiler. My oil boiler is 200k BTUs net, I hate to think about how much fuel it would drink on one of those nights.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 10:09 am

windyhill4.2 wrote:I am feeling pretty happy with my EFM,i have it set on 5 teeth,we had 8* this am & had 25+mph winds overnite & we stayed warm with no glitch. I don't have any timer & I can't tell from the house how long the stoker ran any given time nor am I going to stand in the boiler box for hrs to see what happens. Still heating 3 buildings + DHW. :D


Glad to hear it. I bet the Crane stove helps as well.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:04 am

Rob R. wrote:
windyhill4.2 wrote:I am feeling pretty happy with my EFM,i have it set on 5 teeth,we had 8* this am & had 25+mph winds overnite & we stayed warm with no glitch. I don't have any timer & I can't tell from the house how long the stoker ran any given time nor am I going to stand in the boiler box for hrs to see what happens. Still heating 3 buildings + DHW. :D


Glad to hear it. I bet the Crane stove helps as well.


Rob, I do have to give the Crane some credit,but I am not running it quite as hard/hot as I did the past winters. Since my wife died & I get to do most everything in my shop,my house & property related stuff, I do not have as much time to monitor the Crane. I have been running it in the 400-500* range which still allows me to do 2 times/day tending. If I push it up to the 600-650* range ,then I need to do an 8 hr schedule tending or the ashes build too much to keep the stove up to that temp. So with that in mind is why I am so happy to have made it thru this 8* temp with the EFM on 5 teeth. The past 2 winters I would have set it for 6 teeth for the same OAT. New doors on the shop likely are contributing to less heat demand too.
I did put 210 # in the hopper for the EFM last nite,the wind we have endured the past few days has really pushed the heat out thru the leaky windows in my house.
windyhill4.2
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1960 EFM520 installed in truck box
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Coal Size/Type: 404-nut, 520 rice ,anthracite for both

Re: It's Alive!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:17 am

I think cleaning the 40' of fin-tube baseboard in my living room has made a noticeable difference. I don't even have any curtains on the windows of sliding glass door right now (removed for painting), and that room still held 72 degrees while getting blasted with -5 air. In the past there have been nights when that room would not get above 68 degrees. I also pulled the couches and such a few inches away from the wall to allow more convection. Lesson learned.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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