help replacing plates on jotul 507

help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: sans On: Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:39 pm

I can't seem to get the old cast iron plate out of my Jotul 507. Is there a trick or secret to getting them out? Any help or advise would be greatly appreciated.
sans
 
Stove/Furnace Make: jotul
Stove/Furnace Model: 507

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: coalkirk On: Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:09 pm

I assume you mean the side or back plates and not the grate? The back and side grates come straight up. Often they are wedged in with fly ash. You may have to "persuade" them.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: sans On: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:15 pm

When I try to lift the side plate up, it hits a little nub that prevents it from lifting all the way out. The nubs are on both sides. The back plate seem to be wedged below the curve of the the stove back. I am down to either grinding down the nubs, or cutting the back plate out with a grinder. Both options make me believe I am missing something.
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Stove/Furnace Model: 507

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Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: coalkirk On: Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:25 pm

Well they do lift out cause here they are. I can't remember for sure but I think the back one has to come out first. Are you taking them out because they are no good and you are replacing them? If so no harm in cutting them but they will lift out once you get them free.
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Now that I look at the picture of them installed, I'm pretty sure the back one has to come out first.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: sans On: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:01 pm

OK thanks, that is what I thought. The back won't lift out. I thing it probably warped and that is preventing it from lifting out. I will have to cut the back one out. Yes, the back is burned through and so is one side. I have had this stove since the late 70s and didn't realize I shouldn't put coal above the fire brick, silly me. To tell you the truth, I am surprised that Jotul didn't just bring the firebrick higher up the stove. Thank you again, I just didn't want to start cutting if I was just me missing something.
sans
 
Stove/Furnace Make: jotul
Stove/Furnace Model: 507

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:13 pm

Replace the cast iron with fire brick... :idea:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Estate Heatrola, Jotul 507

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: sans On: Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:04 pm

Nice...
sans
 
Stove/Furnace Make: jotul
Stove/Furnace Model: 507

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: grizzly2 On: Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:19 am

Very nice job PC-12, Looks like the way to go to me. :up: From what I hear about the cost of Jotul parts, the firebrick is a doubly good idea. I made steel back plate and top baffel for my Jotul wood stove. They have outlasted the original very thin cast iron plates. Overall I think Jotul makes very good wood and coal stoves, but my and my neighbors' woodstoves have both had short interor plate life spans. :gee:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30 - 95
Coal Size/Type: pea and nut/ anthracite
Other Heating: Jotul #3 wood stove in garage. Oil backup in house. Electric backup in house.

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: vicbaba On: Thu Apr 07, 2011 2:19 pm

I need to replace the side and rear plates but the job you did with the fire bricks looks great and probably a lot cheaper then replacing the plates

Where did you get the fire bricks? Did you cut them to size yourself? What are the dimensions? Thank you in advance.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Jotul
Stove/Furnace Model: 507

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: littlefish On: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:49 am

found bricks at ace, depot website for $20 plus a tube of cement. how does brick vs cast affect heating? any advice on rebuilding the firebox?
littlefish
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: jotul 507
Coal Size/Type: nut
Other Heating: oil/baseboard

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: nortcan On: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:37 pm

Wow, I never saw PC12 fire bricks job before and it's super nice and good. Bravo, I like that solution.
Fire bricks could only help to keep the heat inside of the fire chamber so the combustion will be very good.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: PC 12-47E On: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:15 pm

nortcan wrote:Wow, I never saw PC12 fire bricks job before and it's super nice and good. Bravo, I like that solution.
Fire bricks could only help to keep the heat inside of the fire chamber so the combustion will be very good.


Now before we get started on this, Forum Member "Freddy" gave me the idea of the fire bricks. Several years ago I bought a 507 from Freddy and he had replaced the cast iron with the fire brick. I liked the way the stove burned with the brick and then changed my other two Jotuls over to fire brick. At the time I changed the two stoves I think it cost about $30. 8-) :D

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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Estate Heatrola, Jotul 507

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: littlefish On: Sat Nov 26, 2011 5:05 pm

thanks pc12. picked up 5 bricks at a local stove shop $3.50 @. have furnace cement on the hvac truck. 9x4.5x1.25. two on the sides, one across the back, looks like a little trimming should lock them all in with a liberal buttering. getting the rear brick to follow the curve may be a challenge. additional problem is the front brick and cast frame, and the removable baffle in the center door. i plan to caulk the front brick with the cement. the center door cast baffle is broken, will try to fit a brick in there, but may just leave casting in place.
littlefish
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: jotul 507
Coal Size/Type: nut
Other Heating: oil/baseboard

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: littlefish On: Wed Dec 21, 2011 10:17 pm

firing the stove now after trimming and fitting some 4x9 fire bricks using a pound or two of furnace cement. not as pretty as the previous pics, but it seems to radiate more nicely than with the burned-up castings. the castings are available from woodman's forge in e wakefield nh, about $225 for the set.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: jotul 507
Coal Size/Type: nut
Other Heating: oil/baseboard

Re: help replacing plates on jotul 507

PostBy: alpineboard On: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:20 pm

Hi PC12 and all 507 repair folk, I have burned a couple of 507s for a few years now and could talk for hours on how great they are. I recently picked up a third 507 on the cheap, from craigs, I was lucky, again. My question is, has anyone replaced ALL the firebrick, from the bottom to the top? This stove has seen some heat, the upper inner casts are trash, and the lower firebrick(molded) has some considerable bubbles, although maybe its ok , so just put some brick in the top as done by others. I would like to do this once and correctly, so I thought I would ask? Probably use a disc grinder/ chisel/hammer to get the lowers out, if needed. I will post pics, to see what you all think, as I process this decision. Thank you for any future information. Robert
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