[quote="tom69z"]well scotty, i have plenty of coal experience, with both hand fired units as well as stokers. our house was heated with coal since I was very young, I know what its like and whats involved (hauling coal in and hauling ashes out, shaking the fire etc) and I know all about good coal and bad coal in a hand fired unit. As far as stokers, I learned about EFMs 15yrs ago, there are two of them in my inlaws basement heating their double house, I know how they work, and what their problem areas are. I just recently learned about AHS units and AA units, never heard of them before. They have a simple design and people seem to love them, but I find it utterly amazing that if these units are so dam good, why haven't I or anyone I know ever heard of these things? Anyway, thats a mystery all its own.
As for trying to start trouble with people selling boilers, Exactly WHAT are you referring to? If its the used $2500 unit that Paul was selling, well I was just stateing what I thought that thing was worth, and thats completely within my rights to do so. I'm looking at all the options here, and I've learned a great deal on this website, some people are helpful while others are just plain bull$hitters. I was almost sent on a wild goose chase a few weeks ago to buy a new AHS unit that someone on here "supposedly" won on ebay, and they were going to "sell" it to me because they were trying to become an AHS dealer. I was not home to place a bid, and I never heard from them since. So I just let it go and chalk that upto a typical Bull$hitter thing, however I sat at home with the cash waiting for the call.... Oh well, I'm sort of glad, since then I spoke to a few people who said they have puff back issues and thats the last thing I'll deal with on a $6500 unit.
Well Tommy, I've had enough experience with geo to last a lifetime.My experience cost me enough in company loss that I am sure to be burning coal for the next 20 years. While they are touted to be the end all, what I saw was a building built around their supposed energy saving design, totally over engineered, high cost for a local college to teach alternate energy courses. The Water furnaces supplied proved to be a product that only the factory reps could deal with when they could be pursuaded into coming to N.Y. The best part of the whole thing is the fact that it cost more to run that building than any other on the whole campus
We had to go back and figure other ways to save electrical costs. Overpriced , Bull$hitting, unaccountable dead wood engineers trying to validate their existance. Just like politicians, one and the same. Me,,,,I will take my EFM and ride off into the sunset. I will grow old with it in comfort and peace, knowing that it won't let me down. Can that Geo loop make me feel the same way. NO! I 'm not really sure how it all works but this I do know, it take some serious electricity to pump water from 300' down from 5 wells. It takes serious electricity to run compressors. I just got back home from installing a EFM 520 for a friend who was sold one of the last great fads, the on demand propane system. Doesn't matter how you cut it, you still have to burn it. The look on his wife's face when I told her she didn't have to keep the heat on 50 anymore was worth it all. I had her run upstairs and turn all the zones on so I could load set the boiler and she came back down an hour later and said it felt too hot.
As far as what you post,,,, I really don't give a frick what you post. That is my right. Do you give a crap what I reply? That is also your right. What I don't get was why you sold the AHS that you restored. It looked sweet.