Frustrated would be a very mild word I would use if I was in your position... 110 lbs of coal is a lot of coal... You should have easily been able to get through the night...macdabs wrote:I am listning just frustrated. When I banked it last night I had the coal packed to the top of the door with less in the rear sloped so not to put the coals out.
The baro might make the system easier to use, but you need to know if that stove is going to work first, and the MPD should be fine to figure that out. But it is a bit of a learning curve.macdabs wrote:I was going to put a barodamper on ,but after speaking to Amos he felt the MPd is all I should need and my flue could be the suspect for not making enough heat to bring the boiler to temp.
Your draft has to be fine, otherwise you wouldn't have burned through that much coal - you would have had a slow fire without a lot of heat output. Your stove would not have gotten to temp. Seems like it can do that.macdabs wrote:Reason I added two more feet of double wall flue pipe to confirm the draft was fine even on the warm windy night we had last night. The boiler sits in my new shop the pex tubing is TPS with triple insulated wrap 250' in a 4'' flex drain pipe with a water line feeding the boiler . The pex pipe is also inside a 6'' schedule 40 and is 3-6' deep from my house to the shop. The temp loss is very little and when the snow was on the yard you could not even see a trace of loss and the feed and return temps are equal when just circulating the loop. My boiler in the house is a 119,000 BTU Utica with a .85 nozzle.
While this is certainly all concerning, it is not related to if the stove will work for you or not....macdabs wrote:The only reason I decided to heat the house was not due to the amount of oil I used per year, but the 3.15 per gallon and the fact I can choose to heat my shop or the home. The firebox of the DS has no bricks and concerns me, I also have no instructions on the samson control valve or setup for adjustment . There is no instructions except for a hand sketch drawing showing interface into a existing boiler and the inlet and outlet of the unit. I asked the dealer on the chain length and asked the factory no one could give me a answer except you had to play with it. I have no specs other than the boiler has a 200,000 BTU output.
This sounds quite reasonable to me. The folk where you bought the stove should be able to help you with that... I think anyway...macdabs wrote:This is the reason I want to see a existing working setup. Is that to much to ask?
The response time for a coal stove and an oil furnace are very different. The coal stove has a much slower response time.macdabs wrote:Two coal burners looked at the boiler and both are skeptical of the output and walked away frustrated as I was . I switched back to my oil boiler it took 15 mins to satisfy any heat call in the house shut off @180 to maintain temp. The DS is working to get up to 160* to heat itself. The DS boiler holds 79 gallons of water and my oil boiler hold half that if that. What am I missing?
I think what you are missing is how to run your MPD. I wish I could come over and take a look, I have to see the stove burning, look at the fire, play with the MPD, watch temperatures and all that. All that can't be done from far away...
I'd suggest when you get your stove up to temp, with a nice hot coal fire going, close the MPD down quite a bit and see how the temperatures in the water stay and how long the fire lasts. I don't know how to tell you how much to close down your damper. I do it by watching the fire...Don't even know how to explain what to look for...
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