Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

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Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: szembek On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:39 pm

My usual shop is just a small place Miller's Coal Bin in Dryden, NY. They were out of coal because they said on their last trip the breaker was closed due to cold weather. I've never encountered that, but shrugged it off given that they are a pretty small place. However I then went to Warner's Coal in Candor, NY and they had a 500lb limit. Something I've never seen in 4 years of buying coal. They said they were cut off by the normal supplier and were able to get one or maybe two loads a week now so they had to limit everyone. They are a pretty big operation up here and this seems strange to me. I went down the road and bought 500 more from another place (Hollenbecks in Candor). They had no limit posted, but I don't think they sell as much as Warners and are slightly more expensive. Just wondering if anyone else has run into any problems recently. Coal is my only source of heat so I need to make sure I can continue to get fuel.
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:00 pm

As predicted--so it begins :(
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: szembek On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:09 pm

freetown fred wrote:As predicted--so it begins :(


Care to elaborate?
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:12 pm

supply & demand--as you know, we up here have always been pretty low on the food chain :)
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: szembek On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:20 pm

Yeah I guess I've just never encountered this, only been burning four years, but have always just been able to walk in and buy as much coal as I wanted when I wanted.
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:43 pm

I sent you a PM with a phone number that hopefully might help
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: crazy4coal On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:49 pm

Bagged coal from Kimmels is backordered 5 weeks. It's been so coal that the breakers can't run. The mines have been down due to the ice and snow. Kimmel's has trucks sitting under the belts waiting from coal so they can take it to the bagging plant and the price is up because of the increase in fuel prices. Last year I could call in an order and pick it up 2-3 days later, now 5 week wait. I sold 11 tons of nut in 6 days. Everybody must be getting caught short this year. "How's that change thing working for ya"
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:53 pm

That;s the problem with trying to get it this time of year...it's been cold and people are burning a lot!
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:21 pm

I've always thought it best to be diversified whether it be coal or any other energy source.

My main concern is rice sized coal. The stokers use this size and I assumed that eventually there could be a problem with supply of rice.

I'm trying to find a hand-fired stove so that it could burn any size coal available and not even depend on electricity.

For example, I keep a 330 gallon oil tank in the garage full of # 2 oil just in case I need fuel for the diesel generator or the Dodge Ram for a while.

You just never know when a natural or man-made disaster will happen. I would rather be safe than sorry!
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: Badog On: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:20 pm

I have not seen a shortage here but I did call for a delivery yesterday and they said a load was due in today so I have to wait until tomorrow for delivery. Hope they show. I did hit up my local by the bag shop and they had no limit. I know they received a load of bagged Reading a few weeks ago. I hate to have to use Reading since it seems to give less heat and more ash. Also it come frozen in this weather :(
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: KPcoalman On: Fri Feb 18, 2011 8:48 pm

I work for a supplier in the Mohawk Valley and we have been having problems getting our loads from Blaschak. We are currently 2-3 weeks out. We have been getting people from the surrounding area because their suppliers are out, so we have had to set limits. The limits differ if you are not a regular customer. This has been a tough year.....but we're almost through it. :)
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: wlape3 On: Fri Feb 18, 2011 10:48 pm

Since you are near Dryden you shouldn't be too far from Fabius (Denis Coal), Apulia Station on Rte 80 (Woodruff? Bros) or Earley's on Rte 20 just east of Madison. I'm sure Fred knows someone closer to you.
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: fastcat On: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:11 pm

Poso coal just outside Dryden toward Cortland on 13 on the left. I just bagged a ton from Dennis and noticed his price has gone from $220 to $230, so yes Fred it is beginning. :mad2:
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: WNY On: Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:21 pm

Sounds like it is all going up this summer, I think mine was $230/ton bulk.
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Re: Had some trouble getting rice coal recently in upstate NY

PostBy: Chuck_Steak On: Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:18 pm

Here, Blaschak is a month+ out, and Kimmels won't even answer the phone, or return calls....

Dan
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