What hot water coil to use

What hot water coil to use

PostBy: maurizziot On: Thu Mar 03, 2011 11:46 am

I have a leisure line bottom vent pioneer stove, i wanted to know what Hilkoil coil i should use, and should i mount it
towards the top of the stove about 2" from the top (Horizontally), if someone has some pic's that would be great. i have an 80 gallon storage now.
maurizziot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure line Coal Stove
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer rear vent

Re: What hot water coil to use

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Mar 03, 2011 1:46 pm

Do a search on HOT WATER COILS, there are numerous threads on here on them.

Usually about 1/2 way between the burner and top, Depends on any obstructions or things in the stove or on the sides. You have to make sure it is only single wall steel too that you don't open the fire box up to convection air, make sure everything is sealed good. Some put them right on top of the fire....
I guess as long as you have all the safety stuff and circulation piping correct, shouldn't matter too much.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
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Re: What hot water coil to use

PostBy: Matthaus On: Fri Mar 04, 2011 8:57 am

A single loop coil is usually the one that gets installed in the Pioneer, if you have two to three people using the hot water that should be plenty large enough to keep the tank stocked up with water. As WNY said there are lots of threads on the different ways to hook up the coil with a domestic water system using a circulator and PRV to make sure there is no chance of making a steam generator.
Matthaus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110 Dual Fuel, natural gas
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Lil' Heater (rental house)
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Buckwheat Anthracite

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Re: What hot water coil to use

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:49 am

Watch out for Hilkoil --Buyer Beware!! Be sure to read the other link on that thread ...

You've been warned. :nono:


Interesting info for those looking to purchase Hilkoil coils
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: What hot water coil to use

PostBy: Matthaus On: Fri Mar 04, 2011 9:54 am

Thanks for the input Smitty, every one out there should understand that Anthracite fly ash is very corrosive, all stoves should be immediately cleaned and protected at shut down!
Matthaus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110 Dual Fuel, natural gas
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Lil' Heater (rental house)
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Buckwheat Anthracite

Re: What hot water coil to use

PostBy: SMITTY On: Fri Mar 04, 2011 10:00 am

More of a warning against that guy's business practices.

A warranty should be honored. In this case, I was accused of cleaning them in acid. The owner of Hilkoil obviously doesn't have a clue about the market he's in ... or he's just being deceptive to make a buck. After dealing with them, my money is on the latter.

I'd recommend these guys over Hilkoil any day: http://www.therma-coil.com/ They can custom build any coil you want, too.
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Does the hot water coil work?

PostBy: maurizziot On: Fri Mar 04, 2011 11:58 pm

Does the coils work in the coal stoves, searched hundreds of post but nobody say it works. I was going to tie the hot water loop onto my boiler and if I have so shed some he I can to a zone like the basement zone. I am not going to hook up the hilkoil, to the domestic water but to the coil in side. I'm going to run my boiler cir pump continuously and while the coal stove is on the water will cirulate and potentially satisfy the boiler or help in the amount the boil cycles. If any has tried this I would like to see if it works. And did any relief valves go of. Or dump addition heat to a local zone
And I know there are posts on this not exactly but. Just can search any more
maurizziot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure line Coal Stove
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer rear vent

Re: What hot water coil to use

PostBy: Matthaus On: Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:11 pm

Yes it will work for this purpose, just remember you will only get out as much heat as you put in with burning coal (minus waste out the stack and heat transferred to space). For example if you are putting 50,000 btuh into the stove that is ~ 4 pounds per hour and will probably result in ~ 15,000 - 20,000 btuh going to your boiler minus any piping and other loss. Depending on how much water your boiler holds this could work out really well.
Matthaus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110 Dual Fuel, natural gas
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Lil' Heater (rental house)
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Buckwheat Anthracite

Re: What hot water coil to use

PostBy: maurizziot On: Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:56 pm

Thank Matt for the response, I'm going to hook it up this weekend, here's a pic of what I installed so far
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Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer rear vent

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